Garza and Minott options declined

[Q-is-here]

I skimmed through the players making 5 to 6 mil that might be a target in a NAW trade. I could not find anyone that made sense.

I think TC parlayed the Minott and Garza into sufficient 2nd space so he can used the TMLE in free agency and then add a 14th vet minimum player, which may in fact be a re-signing of Garza.

Looking through the list of FA PGs to target with that TMLE, I mainly come up with Tyus Jones. Welcome back Tyus!

Tyus got burned by the free agency market last summer and then to make things worse he didn't exactly have a great year with Phoenix. He seems like a realistic target to bring back at this point. And while he may be a bit middling in a lot of areas, one thing he is elite at is his assist:TO ratio, which is a metric probably given a lot more weight in bygone eras of point guards but actually is super relevant to this particular Wolves squad.

[Phenom]

I vote Tre Jones

[Lipoli390]

This puts the tax payer MLE in play and puts trading NAW for a player in play

With the Naz and Randle deals and the release of Josh and Luka, we have 11 players under contract (assuming we pick up our option on Dilly) and a total payroll of $193.6M. That puts us about $2.3M below the projected 1st apron of $195.9. Can we use the non-taxpayer MLE if it would put us over the 1st apron? If so, then the non-taxpayer MLE is certainly in play but we’d be limited practically speaking to using only a portion of it given the imperative of staying under the $207.8M second apron. The non-taxpayer MLE will be about $14M. One $14 MLE contract would put our payroll at $207.6M for 12 roster players, leaving us barely under the second apron with two or three slots to fill. Each vet minimum counts $1.8M against the cap. So realistically it looks like we can use only up to around $10M of the non-taxpayer MLE, but I think that could land us a pretty good backup C or veteran PG. A NAW sign-and-trade that brings back a contract of $10M or less next season is another alternative. It will be interesting to see what TC does.

I could be wrong here lip. But I think you are forgetting Beringer and is 4.2 million because we have 12 players on roster currently. I believe we have the tax payer MLE what is 5.6 million (we also need a 14th man on roster

Ah less! Thanks, Kek. So we’re definitely over the 1st apron at around $197.8M. That leaves us almost exactly $10M under the 2nd apron with 12 roster players and two roster spots to fill. Because we’re over the 1st apron, we’re limited to the taxpayer MLE, which is projected to top out at $5.7M.

[Monster]

Yeah, I've had a bit of an up and down view of Minott since we drafted him. Love what he could be in theory given his athleticism and also some sneaky passing chops. But he was never able to do anything consistently, like shooting or being more of a defensive menace. He seemed awfully close though at times and it might still happen for him.

One problem is he was running out of time. He would have been a restricted FA next offseason. I am pretty sure TC did not want to deal with that. I suspect he tried to move him, but must have not found any takers. And the likelihood of him seeing playing time this upcoming season was pretty low, with Clark, TSJ and even Miller looking for time.

Josh may have also asked to be let out to try somewhere else.

Yeah unless something really wild happened this season the chances of him wanting to resign here seemed basically zero. Dane Moore and Jon K reported he was believing he deserved a chance going into this season and he did actually kinda get one but not a big one. I like Minott and wanted him to stay but there might be another similar young talented player that might fit the roster better. I think some team is gonna give Minott a shot. Wanna here something kinda crazy? Troy Brown Jr turns 26 next month. Not saying we should sign him but he is still out there and not old. Lol

[Monster]

Garza must really hate the idea of going overseas to hoop because he could make so much money doing so. He fits that style more.

I used to think this about various players then around the time Pat Bev got his deal I looked I to how much guys playing internationally were getting paid. First of all most teams don't publish it for various reasons. 2nd you don't know if the amount that is reported is before or after taxes. Let's say the amount is 4 million. That might also include living expenses team leather jackets and other various perks.

Garza's salary last year was over 2 million so it might be somewhat competitive with what he might get in Europe. The Wolves facilities might be far ahead of what he might have playing internationally. He also might have some chances for a few bucks here and there for local endorsements staying in the US.

Garza is now 4 years in the NBA. Every year he adds increases his NBA pension. 10 years is where it maxes out so he has quite a ways to go but all he needs to do is get rostered in season for another year of service time. Maybe he is willing to take even 200k guaranteed from the wolves to make that happen.

At some point rhe international game might be where he lands. With the Wolves he has had an opportunity to be on an NBA roster and he has actually played some legit spot minutes here and there. He is starting to get older so the idea he can improve is fading. He has given everything he has and has been rewarded by the Wolves to some extent. I'd guess he also really likes it here.

[Monster]

Garza and Minott are less consequential but the Wolves declining both remind me of when Connelly decided Prince's somewhat reasonable option and went out and got 2 players for the price of one in Milton and Troy brown Jr. Milton didn't work out and Troy brown was actually pretty useful for a while. Connelly used their basically expering salalries to be able to bring in Monte Morris. I think Connelly simply thought he could get more in one way shape or form that the guys he let go.

Someone like Talen Horton Tucker is moderately intriguing and more ready to help than Minott or Garza. This also opens up a possible opportunity for an undrafted guy to earn a spot and those guys can be signed cheap. They are only 1.2 million so you might be able to have a guy like that as a 15th player if you are careful with how you spend on the other couple open spots.

[Wolvesfan21]

I skimmed through the players making 5 to 6 mil that might be a target in a NAW trade. I could not find anyone that made sense.

I think TC parlayed the Minott and Garza into sufficient 2nd space so he can used the TMLE in free agency and then add a 14th vet minimum player, which may in fact be a re-signing of Garza.

Looking through the list of FA PGs to target with that TMLE, I mainly come up with Tyus Jones. Welcome back Tyus!

Tyus got burned by the free agency market last summer and then to make things worse he didn't exactly have a great year with Phoenix. He seems like a realistic target to bring back at this point. And while he may be a bit middling in a lot of areas, one thing he is elite at is his assist:TO ratio, which is a metric probably given a lot more weight in bygone eras of point guards but actually is super relevant to this particular Wolves squad.

I'd welcome him back also. NBA and math are a thing (no stupid turnovers!). He's a smart player and doesn't make dumb mistakes though he doesn't make incredible beat your man a lot either. I'm guessing Phoenix internally were a bit of a disaster to play for as well. He could really help us for Dilly/Conley insurance and maybe starts over both!?!?! Which both of which are question marks as we know (age and age, lol) and we know what we get from Tyus too. I would hope he would come back and help us win.

[WildWolf2813]

I skimmed through the players making 5 to 6 mil that might be a target in a NAW trade. I could not find anyone that made sense.

I think TC parlayed the Minott and Garza into sufficient 2nd space so he can used the TMLE in free agency and then add a 14th vet minimum player, which may in fact be a re-signing of Garza.

Looking through the list of FA PGs to target with that TMLE, I mainly come up with Tyus Jones. Welcome back Tyus!

Tyus got burned by the free agency market last summer and then to make things worse he didn't exactly have a great year with Phoenix. He seems like a realistic target to bring back at this point. And while he may be a bit middling in a lot of areas, one thing he is elite at is his assist:TO ratio, which is a metric probably given a lot more weight in bygone eras of point guards but actually is super relevant to this particular Wolves squad.

I'd welcome him back also. NBA and math are a thing (no stupid turnovers!). He's a smart player and doesn't make dumb mistakes though he doesn't make incredible beat your man a lot either. I'm guessing Phoenix internally were a bit of a disaster to play for as well. He could really help us for Dilly/Conley insurance and maybe starts over both!?!?! Which both of which are question marks as we know (age and age, lol) and we know what we get from Tyus too. I would hope he would come back and help us win.

If he's consistently playing over Dillingham then there's no hope for Dillingham's future here.

[Wolvesfan21]

Tyus got burned by the free agency market last summer and then to make things worse he didn't exactly have a great year with Phoenix. He seems like a realistic target to bring back at this point. And while he may be a bit middling in a lot of areas, one thing he is elite at is his assist:TO ratio, which is a metric probably given a lot more weight in bygone eras of point guards but actually is super relevant to this particular Wolves squad.

I'd welcome him back also. NBA and math are a thing (no stupid turnovers!). He's a smart player and doesn't make dumb mistakes though he doesn't make incredible beat your man a lot either. I'm guessing Phoenix internally were a bit of a disaster to play for as well. He could really help us for Dilly/Conley insurance and maybe starts over both!?!?! Which both of which are question marks as we know (age and age, lol) and we know what we get from Tyus too. I would hope he would come back and help us win.

If he's consistently playing over Dillingham then there's no hope for Dillingham's future here.

IDK about that. Dilly may need more time to become consistent starter material, and he probably does. Though my preference with a vet PG/s or not here is to see him start and give him every opportunity to succeed. Conley could drop off even more then last year, so he's no guarantee to start or play either. Tyus will shoot the 3P well, defend adequately, and not be an idiot with the ball. All of which puts a floor on our production. However we likely need the upside of Dilly in the long term!

[AbeVigodaLive]

It was clear that Minott lost the trust of the coaching staff. We discussed the incidents that led to this...

... being pulled 5 seconds after entering a game is NOT the best for job security. He'd probably pretty damn happy for the opportunity to move on to an organization where he can start anew without the baggage.