Ha, I may have liked him as much as Lip did. And in all fairness, he's had a pretty nice career. But he looks like he's cooked at age 28.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:05 pmLip's guy from back in the day! Collins is one of those players that peaked early in his career and then fell off a bit and never became really good at any one thing....just sort of a blah player that was good enough to start and fill in a decent box score, but didn't drive much winning. He's not even that old, yet his play continues to deteriorate.
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Yep, he was my guy in that draft and I was unhappy we passed on him. But I soured on him fairly soon thereafter. Recall that the Hawks were trying to trade him within a few years after drafting him even as he was putting up terrific stats. That was a red flag for me, telling us Collins had issues. Another red flag was the fact that the Hawks had a hard time finding a team willing to trading for him in spite of him impressive stats. I’m sure there’s a back channel of information about Collins known only in NBA front office circles. Note that he was suspended at one point for a positive drug test. Then there was the red flag that his stats didn’t appear to impact winning. Because of those red flags, I recall posting a couple years ago that we should stay away from him. But I sure liked him coming out of college and immediately after his rookie year.FNG wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:27 pmHa, I may have liked him as much as Lip did. And in all fairness, he's had a pretty nice career. But he looks like he's cooked at age 28.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:05 pmLip's guy from back in the day! Collins is one of those players that peaked early in his career and then fell off a bit and never became really good at any one thing....just sort of a blah player that was good enough to start and fill in a decent box score, but didn't drive much winning. He's not even that old, yet his play continues to deteriorate.
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I agree, Q. Not sure who we’d give up for salary match, but it would certainly be more than Donte and Rob Dillingham. LeMelo would be a poor fit for us and bad for chemistry. Considering what we’d have to give up to get him makes it a non-starter in my view.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Thu Nov 20, 2025 8:18 pmMan, I don't see the fit. It's so funny because his brother Lonzo Ball circa 2019-2022 (before his injury) is damn near the ideal archetype of PG you'd want next to Ant and Julius. Great defender and rebounder, not flashy, pass-first mentality, takes good shots, etc...
I agree that Lonzo is the right Ball for the Wolves. Lonzo is actually playing well this season. I wanted us to trade for him this past offseason.
Note that Tyus Jones is averaging only 11.9 minutes per game this season. He’s shouting under 37% from the field and under 20% from behind the arc. All those numbers put him on par with Rob.
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Portland pulled the upset at Golden State. So, Golden State doesn't gain any ground on the Wolves.
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What’s worse? Losing at Phoenix? Or losing at home to the Sabonas-less Kings?
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Ha, by far losing to the Kings (especially for those of us that might have had a bet on Denver- 11 1/2)! If the Wolves lost to Sac-Town at home, the gloom and doom on this board would be immeasurable...and KG4ever would be posting nonstop!
The Suns loss was painful, but I think we only learned two main things from it: 1) that we can hang with the good teams on their own court, and 2) Ant is immensely talented, but has a ways to go to become the guy who can consistently lead a team in clutch time.
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We might also find in a few weeks/months that this loss was massively instructive as a teaching tool.FNG wrote: ↑Sun Nov 23, 2025 8:01 amHa, by far losing to the Kings (especially for those of us that might have had a bet on Denver- 11 1/2)! If the Wolves lost to Sac-Town at home, the gloom and doom on this board would be immeasurable...and KG4ever would be posting nonstop!
The Suns loss was painful, but I think we only learned two main things from it: 1) that we can hang with the good teams on their own court, and 2) Ant is immensely talented, but has a ways to go to become the guy who can consistently lead a team in clutch time.
How did we all feel after the Rudy/Randle debacle in Toronto last year? Yet the team grew from that
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