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Q-is-here wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:08 am
kekgeek wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 8:46 am Chris Paul cut. Think you should consider if you are the Timberwolves
Would you see him as pure insurance or as replacing someone in the current rotation? I think Mike Conley is fine right now in the more limited role Finch has him in (versus starting) and I don't see Paul as an upgrade there. He'd certainly be better than Dillingham, but why would he sign here to be the 3rd string PG behind Ant and Conley?

And I hope after last night we can put a nail in the coffin of "DDV is the starting PG" narrative that's I've heard and seen from other Wolves followers and pundits (not here so much). Ant is the starting PG. Period. Point Ant is no longer a notion, but the reality, for better or worse.
I’m not like it needs to be done. I do think Paul would increase our chances of winning a title albeit slightly. He would take Dilly minutes and you have to weigh that against the small increase in championship %. I know the majority of this board would be against dilly losing minutes.

Overall I don’t expect it to happen but I think it’s a talking point because he would be an upgrade in the rotation. Also I’m not hammering the table to get it done.
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kekgeek wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:59 am
Q-is-here wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:08 am
kekgeek wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 8:46 am Chris Paul cut. Think you should consider if you are the Timberwolves
Would you see him as pure insurance or as replacing someone in the current rotation? I think Mike Conley is fine right now in the more limited role Finch has him in (versus starting) and I don't see Paul as an upgrade there. He'd certainly be better than Dillingham, but why would he sign here to be the 3rd string PG behind Ant and Conley?

And I hope after last night we can put a nail in the coffin of "DDV is the starting PG" narrative that's I've heard and seen from other Wolves followers and pundits (not here so much). Ant is the starting PG. Period. Point Ant is no longer a notion, but the reality, for better or worse.
I’m not like it needs to be done. I do think Paul would increase our chances of winning a title albeit slightly. He would take Dilly minutes and you have to weigh that against the small increase in championship %. I know the majority of this board would be against dilly losing minutes.

Overall I don’t expect it to happen but I think it’s a talking point because he would be an upgrade in the rotation. Also I’m not hammering the table to get it done.
I'm pretty much where you are, kek. Paul has had a great career, but he has never won a ring. Of all the teams out there that could give him 20+ minutes at PG, the Wolves might be the team with the best chance of going somewhere. Paul is a smart guy though, and he likely knows he would be wasted here if Ant wouldn't let him run the point. Mike hasn't been great this year when Ant forces him to play off ball, but he's a better option than Paul off ball.
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kekgeek wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:59 am
Q-is-here wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 9:08 am
kekgeek wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 8:46 am Chris Paul cut. Think you should consider if you are the Timberwolves
Would you see him as pure insurance or as replacing someone in the current rotation? I think Mike Conley is fine right now in the more limited role Finch has him in (versus starting) and I don't see Paul as an upgrade there. He'd certainly be better than Dillingham, but why would he sign here to be the 3rd string PG behind Ant and Conley?

And I hope after last night we can put a nail in the coffin of "DDV is the starting PG" narrative that's I've heard and seen from other Wolves followers and pundits (not here so much). Ant is the starting PG. Period. Point Ant is no longer a notion, but the reality, for better or worse.
I’m not like it needs to be done. I do think Paul would increase our chances of winning a title albeit slightly. He would take Dilly minutes and you have to weigh that against the small increase in championship %. I know the majority of this board would be against dilly losing minutes.

Overall I don’t expect it to happen but I think it’s a talking point because he would be an upgrade in the rotation. Also I’m not hammering the table to get it done.
Another upgrade to the rotation might just be to not play Dillingham and re-distribute his minutes to Mike, Clark, and Shannon. Too early for that, but if the playoffs started today Finch wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole. I think there is still hope for Shannon, but that's getting close to dire too.
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I think Chris Paul to the Wolves is a non-starter. And more because "why would he want to come here?". Although, the question of "what does he really bring for the Wolves?" still applies.

My gut tells me Paul's release was a mutual decision. I wouldn't be surprised if he joins either the Clipper coaching staff or the front office. Paul went to the Clippers because he wants to live in LA.

And for the Wolves, who is he supplanting? The choice between Mike and Paul is a push, and maybe even favors Mike. Dilly isn't even part of the rotation -- Finch just carves out a few minutes in the first half to get him some reps. That's all.

And if the Wolves were itching to fill that 15th roster spot, getting a vet big man would be much higher on my list than a vet guard.
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There's a lot of redundancy with Conley + Paul. Age. Decline. Savvy. Experience. Paul is a slightly better creator, Conley the better shooter at this point. Both are very risk-adverse.

That being said, how much value do the Wolves get from Conley x2 for 30 or 35 mpg. And as noted, does Edwards' ascension with the ball negate A LOT of what Chris Paul can bring to the table.



[Note: As for Dillingham... I'm still resisting from going scorched earth and sharing all of my thoughts. But there's a pseudo-JJ McCarthy parallel at some point if his development takes any sort of precedence over W/L at this point.]
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[Run It Back] Lou Williams on why Chris Paul was sent home by the LA Clippers: "CP3 was holding players and coaches accountable... he was critical of the front office... that was the straw that broke the camel's back."

Not sure if this is true or not, but him coming in and being that Kyle Anderson leader that isn't afraid to tell the best players that you're playing like shit on a down night wouldn't be bad to have. Of course the worry would be he's just another Ingles, but at the cost of Bones it's not a big deal.
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Hmm.. I didn't realize it was for sure NOT mutual!

They sent him home, but did the waive him, yet? This might all be a prelude to a trade...
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Looks like Giannis leaving Milwaukee is inevitable. It will be hard to get him without having a bevy of first round picks to offer, but the Wolves should try. We can put together a package including Beringer, Dillingham, Randle, Shannon, and NAZ, plus whatever 1st round picks we can currently offer. Giannis replaces Randle in the starting lineup and is our rim protector when Rudy goes to the bench.
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Coolbreeze44 wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:45 pm Looks like Giannis leaving Milwaukee is inevitable. It will be hard to get him without having a bevy of first round picks to offer, but the Wolves should try. We can put together a package including Beringer, Dillingham, Randle, Shannon, and NAZ, plus whatever 1st round picks we can currently offer. Giannis replaces Randle in the starting lineup and is our rim protector when Rudy goes to the bench.
Unfortunately...

I have to think that if the Bucks sell Giannis... it's for a rebuild. And the Wolves can't come close with their lack of long-term assets and prospects. The Bucks can get a legit high upside prospect (or multiple) and multiple high draft picks for Giannis. The Wolves can't offer ANY of that.
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Coolbreeze44 wrote: Wed Dec 03, 2025 2:45 pm Looks like Giannis leaving Milwaukee is inevitable. It will be hard to get him without having a bevy of first round picks to offer, but the Wolves should try. We can put together a package including Beringer, Dillingham, Randle, Shannon, and NAZ, plus whatever 1st round picks we can currently offer. Giannis replaces Randle in the starting lineup and is our rim protector when Rudy goes to the bench.
The picks we can trade are 2026 first and 2033 first this summer.
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