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Lipoli390 wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 8:18 am The Wolves are in the mix for the 2-6 seeds right now. More realistically, I think we can finish as high as 3rd because I think Houston is substantially better than Minnesota. Note the Rockets have an 11.2 positive point differential. The one thing that won’t happen this year is the Wolves beating OKC and making it to the NBA finals and — baring some unforeseen injuries - there is no realistic trade that could put the Wolves in position to get past OKC and into the NBA finals.

OKC has only 1 loss so far this season. They are a juggernaut in the mold of the Bulls in their 72-win season and the Warriors in their 73-win season. Interestingly, the Warriors lost to LeBron’s Cavs in the NBA finals that season, but when you’re up against a team led by the 2nd best player in NBA history that sort of thing can happen. Bottom line in my view is that this is not the season to chase a championship. Teams that have juggernaut seasons like OKC this year rarely repeat the same sort of season the following year. This is OKC’s year. The Wolves should strive to remain competitive but should have their championship sights set on next season and the several seasons thereafter with Ant and Jaden under contract.
It's a silly notion to just throw away the season because OKC is so good. An injury or a bad matchup could easily knock off OKC. If Gordon doesn't get hurt maybe OKC gets bounced in the 2nd round and Wolves could be the defending champs right now. If Hali doesn't get injured they might of lost in the finals as well. Even the Warriors dynasty almost got beat by Houston and did get beat by the Cavs.
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guest81 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:26 am
Lipoli390 wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 8:18 am The Wolves are in the mix for the 2-6 seeds right now. More realistically, I think we can finish as high as 3rd because I think Houston is substantially better than Minnesota. Note the Rockets have an 11.2 positive point differential. The one thing that won’t happen this year is the Wolves beating OKC and making it to the NBA finals and — baring some unforeseen injuries - there is no realistic trade that could put the Wolves in position to get past OKC and into the NBA finals.

OKC has only 1 loss so far this season. They are a juggernaut in the mold of the Bulls in their 72-win season and the Warriors in their 73-win season. Interestingly, the Warriors lost to LeBron’s Cavs in the NBA finals that season, but when you’re up against a team led by the 2nd best player in NBA history that sort of thing can happen. Bottom line in my view is that this is not the season to chase a championship. Teams that have juggernaut seasons like OKC this year rarely repeat the same sort of season the following year. This is OKC’s year. The Wolves should strive to remain competitive but should have their championship sights set on next season and the several seasons thereafter with Ant and Jaden under contract.
It's a silly notion to just throw away the season because OKC is so good. An injury or a bad matchup could easily knock off OKC. If Gordon doesn't get hurt maybe OKC gets bounced in the 2nd round and Wolves could be the defending champs right now. If Hali doesn't get injured they might of lost in the finals as well. Even the Warriors dynasty almost got beat by Houston and did get beat by the Cavs.
I’m not suggesting we “throw away the season” If you read the last line of my post you’ll see I said that “The Wolves should strive to remain competitive.” My point is that we should not take extraordinary measures via trade to win a championship this season because the odds are so heavily stacked against us given where OKC is at. I think we’re a competitive team right ow as our record indicates — 1.5 games out of 2nd place. We can be positioned to capitalized on an “anything can happen” opportunity. But it would be highly imprudent to make a major trade mid-season in an effort to chase OKC. That was my only point.
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One guy that deserves props along with notice from Wolves fans is Zach Edey. Memphis is 6-4 since he came back from injury and he has anchored an elite defense when he is on the floor.

Rocco Zikarsky is a looooooong ways from being ready for regular NBA action, but Edey goes to show that knowing how to use one's length and size can make a huge difference even if slow and unathletic otherwise.
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Q-is-here wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 6:33 pm One guy that deserves props along with notice from Wolves fans is Zach Edey. Memphis is 6-4 since he came back from injury and he has anchored an elite defense when he is on the floor.

Rocco Zikarsky is a looooooong ways from being ready for regular NBA action, but Edey goes to show that knowing how to use one's length and size can make a huge difference even if slow and unathletic otherwise.
Edey is 7'4'' 305

Zikarsky is 7'3'' 227

and I'm certain Edey could beat him in a foot race.
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Lipoli390 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:41 am
guest81 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:26 am
Lipoli390 wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 8:18 am The Wolves are in the mix for the 2-6 seeds right now. More realistically, I think we can finish as high as 3rd because I think Houston is substantially better than Minnesota. Note the Rockets have an 11.2 positive point differential. The one thing that won’t happen this year is the Wolves beating OKC and making it to the NBA finals and — baring some unforeseen injuries - there is no realistic trade that could put the Wolves in position to get past OKC and into the NBA finals.

OKC has only 1 loss so far this season. They are a juggernaut in the mold of the Bulls in their 72-win season and the Warriors in their 73-win season. Interestingly, the Warriors lost to LeBron’s Cavs in the NBA finals that season, but when you’re up against a team led by the 2nd best player in NBA history that sort of thing can happen. Bottom line in my view is that this is not the season to chase a championship. Teams that have juggernaut seasons like OKC this year rarely repeat the same sort of season the following year. This is OKC’s year. The Wolves should strive to remain competitive but should have their championship sights set on next season and the several seasons thereafter with Ant and Jaden under contract.
It's a silly notion to just throw away the season because OKC is so good. An injury or a bad matchup could easily knock off OKC. If Gordon doesn't get hurt maybe OKC gets bounced in the 2nd round and Wolves could be the defending champs right now. If Hali doesn't get injured they might of lost in the finals as well. Even the Warriors dynasty almost got beat by Houston and did get beat by the Cavs.
I’m not suggesting we “throw away the season” If you read the last line of my post you’ll see I said that “The Wolves should strive to remain competitive.” My point is that we should not take extraordinary measures via trade to win a championship this season because the odds are so heavily stacked against us given where OKC is at. I think we’re a competitive team right ow as our record indicates — 1.5 games out of 2nd place. We can be positioned to capitalized on an “anything can happen” opportunity. But it would be highly imprudent to make a major trade mid-season in an effort to chase OKC. That was my only point.
Lookin at OKCs age, talent and assets I don’t see those odds getting much lighter anytime soon. How many years until making moves becomes prudent again? LA, Spurs, Houston, Dallas have foundations in place as well.
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Porckchop wrote: Mon Dec 08, 2025 12:53 am
Lipoli390 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:41 am
guest81 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:26 am

It's a silly notion to just throw away the season because OKC is so good. An injury or a bad matchup could easily knock off OKC. If Gordon doesn't get hurt maybe OKC gets bounced in the 2nd round and Wolves could be the defending champs right now. If Hali doesn't get injured they might of lost in the finals as well. Even the Warriors dynasty almost got beat by Houston and did get beat by the Cavs.
I’m not suggesting we “throw away the season” If you read the last line of my post you’ll see I said that “The Wolves should strive to remain competitive.” My point is that we should not take extraordinary measures via trade to win a championship this season because the odds are so heavily stacked against us given where OKC is at. I think we’re a competitive team right ow as our record indicates — 1.5 games out of 2nd place. We can be positioned to capitalized on an “anything can happen” opportunity. But it would be highly imprudent to make a major trade mid-season in an effort to chase OKC. That was my only point.
Lookin at OKCs age, talent and assets I don’t see those odds getting much lighter anytime soon. How many years until making moves becomes prudent again? LA, Spurs, Houston, Dallas have foundations in place as well.
Obviously OKC is amazing and they have the chance to add 2 top 10 picks this year. (I will be a little suprised if they get the Jazz pick) but the aprons are going to catch up to this team. SGA will be on a super max, Jwill will be on a super max. Chet has a chance to be on a super max (needs to make all nba or win DPOY what he is the current betting favorite). They will be 19 million away from the projected 2nd apron to fill 4 sport and that is losing Dort, Hertinstien, Wallace, K. Williams. That is including the big salaries their high picks will get in this draft.


It’s hard to want to be any other team than OKC but they are about to lose 3 of their top 7 players. Now it might not matter because SGA, Chet and Jwill are to good but the wolves should be rooting for Chet to get accolades this season
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WildWolf2813 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 10:51 pm
Q-is-here wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 6:33 pm One guy that deserves props along with notice from Wolves fans is Zach Edey. Memphis is 6-4 since he came back from injury and he has anchored an elite defense when he is on the floor.

Rocco Zikarsky is a looooooong ways from being ready for regular NBA action, but Edey goes to show that knowing how to use one's length and size can make a huge difference even if slow and unathletic otherwise.
Edey is 7'4'' 305

Zikarsky is 7'3'' 227

and I'm certain Edey could beat him in a foot race.
Edey was 7'3.75" without shoes at his draft combine at age 22 and 299 lbs. He ran the 3/4-court sprint in 3.45 seconds.

Rocco was 7'3" without shoes at his draft combine at age 18 and 257 lbs. (so he gained 30 lbs. from whatever number you quoted). He ran the 3/4 sprint in 3.48 seconds.

Now do you think in four years Rocco's body just might grow and strengthen a bit more!?

And my point isn't even that Rocco will be as good as Edey. I was skeptical of how effective Edey could be in an NBA that values pace, shooting, and switchability. There is still clearly a place for huge, slow Centers, provided they put in the work. It's still a massive TBD with Rocco.
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Q-is-here wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 6:33 pm One guy that deserves props along with notice from Wolves fans is Zach Edey. Memphis is 6-4 since he came back from injury and he has anchored an elite defense when he is on the floor.

Rocco Zikarsky is a looooooong ways from being ready for regular NBA action, but Edey goes to show that knowing how to use one's length and size can make a huge difference even if slow and unathletic otherwise.
Yeah, Edey is a force for them. But I think not having Ja on the court might be helping them just as much if not more. NBA GMs have to be noticing how much better the Griz are playing since Ja got "hurt".
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kekgeek wrote: Mon Dec 08, 2025 1:23 am
Porckchop wrote: Mon Dec 08, 2025 12:53 am
Lipoli390 wrote: Sun Dec 07, 2025 8:41 am

I’m not suggesting we “throw away the season” If you read the last line of my post you’ll see I said that “The Wolves should strive to remain competitive.” My point is that we should not take extraordinary measures via trade to win a championship this season because the odds are so heavily stacked against us given where OKC is at. I think we’re a competitive team right ow as our record indicates — 1.5 games out of 2nd place. We can be positioned to capitalized on an “anything can happen” opportunity. But it would be highly imprudent to make a major trade mid-season in an effort to chase OKC. That was my only point.
Lookin at OKCs age, talent and assets I don’t see those odds getting much lighter anytime soon. How many years until making moves becomes prudent again? LA, Spurs, Houston, Dallas have foundations in place as well.
Obviously OKC is amazing and they have the chance to add 2 top 10 picks this year. (I will be a little suprised if they get the Jazz pick) but the aprons are going to catch up to this team. SGA will be on a super max, Jwill will be on a super max. Chet has a chance to be on a super max (needs to make all nba or win DPOY what he is the current betting favorite). They will be 19 million away from the projected 2nd apron to fill 4 sport and that is losing Dort, Hertinstien, Wallace, K. Williams. That is including the big salaries their high picks will get in this draft.


It’s hard to want to be any other team than OKC but they are about to lose 3 of their top 7 players. Now it might not matter because SGA, Chet and Jwill are to good but the wolves should be rooting for Chet to get accolades this season
OkC is amazing. They played last night without Shae, Hartenstein, Dort, and a few reserves, and they were up something like 30 in the first quarter. They are incredible!
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