If Coby White's numbers were similar, I'd agree. But they aren't. In fact, Coby has a positive Net Rating and On/Off rating. That means when Ayo subs for Coby, the Bulls do worse!rapsuperstar31 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:41 amHe was teamed up with Coby White.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:40 am Ayo year by year Net Rating (how his team does per 100 possessions while he's ON the floor) and Net On/Off Rating (how his team does while ON the floor MINUS how his team does while OFF the floor).
Year: Net Rating/Net On-Off Rating:
25-26: -3.8/-1.8
24-25: -7.7/-9.1
23-24: -3.3/-3.9
22-23: -1.3/-6.0
21-22: -5.0/-8.7
9000 minutes played in the NBA. Someone explain why his team always loses when he's on the floor and always does better when he's off the floor. Make me believe!
(Yes, it did improve this season, which gives me some hope)
Wolves trade number 2. We got Ayo!!
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This is great...he was obviously a loved player in Chicago.rapsuperstar31 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:39 am https://www.reddit.com/r/chicagobulls/c ... ulls_have/
Bulls fans in shambles.
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Zach Lavine's jumper is not the same as when he came out of college. Dillingham is also young he still might put it all together. I'd say he is still the biggest piece of the return the Bulls got back. If I was a team looking for young projects I would be plenty interested in adding Rob.kekgeek wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:44 amThey messed with Ant jumper also and now he can shoot. Win some you lose some. Dilly might just be bad. He didn’t shoot good in either summer league or both nba seasonsCrazysauce wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:34 am My problem is they messed with Robs jumper and now he can't shoot. They should have never done that.
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Clearly far from a perfect player. But he was the 38th pick in the draft and he's going to be a bench player, and we got him for essentially nothing.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:46 amIf Coby White's numbers were similar, I'd agree. But they aren't. In fact, Coby has a positive Net Rating and On/Off rating. That means when Ayo subs for Coby, the Bulls do worse!rapsuperstar31 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:41 amHe was teamed up with Coby White.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:40 am Ayo year by year Net Rating (how his team does per 100 possessions while he's ON the floor) and Net On/Off Rating (how his team does while ON the floor MINUS how his team does while OFF the floor).
Year: Net Rating/Net On-Off Rating:
25-26: -3.8/-1.8
24-25: -7.7/-9.1
23-24: -3.3/-3.9
22-23: -1.3/-6.0
21-22: -5.0/-8.7
9000 minutes played in the NBA. Someone explain why his team always loses when he's on the floor and always does better when he's off the floor. Make me believe!
(Yes, it did improve this season, which gives me some hope)
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At first glance, I dig this trade a lot for this season.
We'll see what happens long-term...
We'll see what happens long-term...
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I think Juzang will not be with the club much longer...
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At least this year Ayo numbers are good when not playing with arguably the worst defending center in the nba in Vuc.Q-is-here wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:40 am Ayo year by year Net Rating (how his team does per 100 possessions while he's ON the floor) and Net On/Off Rating (how his team does while ON the floor MINUS how his team does while OFF the floor).
Year: Net Rating/Net On-Off Rating:
25-26: -3.8/-1.8
24-25: -7.7/-9.1
23-24: -3.3/-3.9
22-23: -1.3/-6.0
21-22: -5.0/-8.7
9000 minutes played in the NBA. Someone explain why his team always loses when he's on the floor and always does better when he's off the floor. Make me believe!
(Yes, it did improve this season, which gives me some hope)
But I know almost nothing about this guy but Julian Phillips the other player we got in the trade is one of the few positive net rating guys on a negative bulls team the last 2 years. His defensive metrics are good. He also is a 10 minute per game guy as a 22 year old wing. I think there is a good chance of him taking Clark minutes
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Are we confident that Rob's jumper is where the Wolves wanted it? I am rooting for Rob and Lenny to make a mark for themselves.Monster wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:47 amZach Lavine's jumper is not the same as when he came out of college. Dillingham is also young he still might put it all together. I'd say he is still the biggest piece of the return the Bulls got back. If I was a team looking for young projects I would be plenty interested in adding Rob.kekgeek wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:44 amThey messed with Ant jumper also and now he can shoot. Win some you lose some. Dilly might just be bad. He didn’t shoot good in either summer league or both nba seasonsCrazysauce wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:34 am My problem is they messed with Robs jumper and now he can't shoot. They should have never done that.
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I get it. I wanna believe and certainly his box-score related stats and shooting percentages look really good. Love his greater than 2:1 assist to turnover ratio and obviously the 3-point shooting. Just wondering why the hell his team always does better when he's not in the game for five straight seasons. It's not like he was backing up a bunch of superstars.FNG wrote: ↑Thu Feb 05, 2026 9:52 amClearly far from a perfect player. But he was the 38th pick in the draft and he's going to be a bench player, and we got him for essentially nothing.
I'll let go of this and hope he provides a much needed scoring boost to our guard rotation.