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[rapsuperstar31]

I think we screwed up not resigning NAW instead of Naz, we missed NAW this season a lot. His pressure defense was so amazing to watch. Having both him and Jaden on the perimeter was such a killer combo, then Rudy backing them up. I did like our defense last game though! Especially Rudy on Jokic, that was all time great type of shizzz.

It doesn't matter if you start the season in the 2nd apron, it's where you finish the season. We should have kept NAW, we could have traded Mike this past summer for nothing and maybe gotten NAW to take a million or two less, or talked Naz or Randle into taking a million less to keep the team together. We still could have traded for Ayo and had both Ayo and NAW.

[Wolvesfan21]

Even if LeBron is on HGH or whatever. Most players probably are. The fact that he has had zero major injuries in 22 years, with his added postseason play, is pure insanity. No acl tear, Achilles, calf or hamstring tear. Foot/ankle issues. Broken bone. Major surgeries. Nothing.

Add to that that he has been pretty much entirely clean even though he's been under the public microscope since he was a teen. All without a father figure too. And by all accounts he seems to be a dang good husband and father himself.

He really is a marvel.

Yeah, I really think it's 99.9% chance he's on something. I just don't think it's possible to maintain that size and health and explosiveness without it, especially at his age.

Just going back to how like Bonds went from an avg looking athlete to a powerhouse of a bomber breaking records in a couple years. It's pretty telling.

As far as most players? I don't think a lot of them are if I were to guess. Especially the skinnier guys don't look it, like say Stepth or Durant or most NBA players. They look really normal athlete like and do have lots of nagging injuries too. LeBron never has looked normal to me. Plus he said he spends a million a year or something stupid on his body. Yeah we know dude.

I guess I just always thought from day 1 he's been cheating, his longevity now even more so confirms it. Not to say it's only X banned substance, because obviously it's not, it takes everything and then some, but to hold that level for so long. Unbelievable.

[Phenom]

I think we screwed up not resigning NAW instead of Naz, we missed NAW this season a lot. His pressure defense was so amazing to watch. Having both him and Jaden on the perimeter was such a killer combo, then Rudy backing them up. I did like our defense last game though! Especially Rudy on Jokic, that was all time great type of shizzz.

It doesn't matter if you start the season in the 2nd apron, it's where you finish the season. We should have kept NAW, we could have traded Mike this past summer for nothing and maybe gotten NAW to take a million or two less, or talked Naz or Randle into taking a million less to keep the team together. We still could have traded for Ayo and had both Ayo and NAW.

I maintain that if the Kevin Durant trade happens then Nickeil stays. I think that was the plan all along following last years trade deadline, but KD spurned Connelly.

On a side note, looks like KD made a good choice.

[TheFuture]

Even if LeBron is on HGH or whatever. Most players probably are. The fact that he has had zero major injuries in 22 years, with his added postseason play, is pure insanity. No acl tear, Achilles, calf or hamstring tear. Foot/ankle issues. Broken bone. Major surgeries. Nothing.

Add to that that he has been pretty much entirely clean even though he's been under the public microscope since he was a teen. All without a father figure too. And by all accounts he seems to be a dang good husband and father himself.

He really is a marvel.

Yeah, I really think it's 99.9% chance he's on something. I just don't think it's possible to maintain that size and health and explosiveness without it, especially at his age.

Just going back to how like Bonds went from an avg looking athlete to a powerhouse of a bomber breaking records in a couple years. It's pretty telling.

As far as most players? I don't think a lot of them are if I were to guess. Especially the skinnier guys don't look it, like say Stepth or Durant or most NBA players. They look really normal athlete like and do have lots of nagging injuries too. LeBron never has looked normal to me. Plus he said he spends a million a year or something stupid on his body. Yeah we know dude.

I guess I just always thought from day 1 he's been cheating, his longevity now even more so confirms it. Not to say it's only X banned substance, because obviously it's not, it takes everything and then some, but to hold that level for so long. Unbelievable.

Yeah, I just don't care about HGH, steroids, "performance enhancing drugs". It can help, but it doesn't usurp the actual skill level. I hate professional wrestling, some people love it. All of them are just roided up people doing choreography. The choreography is a definite skill and dedication. Sports are all just entertainment. So do whatever, and entertain with your unique skillset.

You could pump me with all of the steroids Bonds took and I am not launching every third pitch over the fence.

I don't know if or what LeBron takes. I don't care. I just know the guy has never had a freaking injury. Ever. We've all seen him roll his ankle 90 degrees with the side of his foot hitting the ground and all of his 260+ pounds coming down on top of it. Then he just ties his shoe and carries on. That's not HGH or whatever. That's being extremely blessed and disciplined on your body. The guy is 41, putting up statlines like this last 28,8,8 and dunking like he is 28.

If it was just PEDs then you would find many more anomalies.

People don't accept what they have seen for over two decades now. He is just that different. He may not be the best player ever if you're picking one season or one stretch. The guy won everywhere.. with a slew of different teammates and playstyles. Overall, he is the greatest NBA player of all time. There is no question or debate.

Before all of the MJ heads deny that. Answer me this. You replace LeBron with MJ on those Bulls teams. Do they not still win? You replace MJ with LeBron on those early Finals Cavs teams? Are they sniffing the finals? Remember MJ didn't do shit until the first 3 peat began.

[Wolvesfan21]

Even if LeBron is on HGH or whatever. Most players probably are. The fact that he has had zero major injuries in 22 years, with his added postseason play, is pure insanity. No acl tear, Achilles, calf or hamstring tear. Foot/ankle issues. Broken bone. Major surgeries. Nothing.

Add to that that he has been pretty much entirely clean even though he's been under the public microscope since he was a teen. All without a father figure too. And by all accounts he seems to be a dang good husband and father himself.

He really is a marvel.

Yeah, I really think it's 99.9% chance he's on something. I just don't think it's possible to maintain that size and health and explosiveness without it, especially at his age.

Just going back to how like Bonds went from an avg looking athlete to a powerhouse of a bomber breaking records in a couple years. It's pretty telling.

As far as most players? I don't think a lot of them are if I were to guess. Especially the skinnier guys don't look it, like say Stepth or Durant or most NBA players. They look really normal athlete like and do have lots of nagging injuries too. LeBron never has looked normal to me. Plus he said he spends a million a year or something stupid on his body. Yeah we know dude.

I guess I just always thought from day 1 he's been cheating, his longevity now even more so confirms it. Not to say it's only X banned substance, because obviously it's not, it takes everything and then some, but to hold that level for so long. Unbelievable.

Yeah, I just don't care about HGH, steroids, "performance enhancing drugs". It can help, but it doesn't usurp the actual skill level. I hate professional wrestling, some people love it. All of them are just roided up people doing choreography. The choreography is a definite skill and dedication. Sports are all just entertainment. So do whatever, and entertain with your unique skillset.

You could pump me with all of the steroids Bonds took and I am not launching every third pitch over the fence.

I don't know if or what LeBron takes. I don't care. I just know the guy has never had a freaking injury. Ever. We've all seen him roll his ankle 90 degrees with the side of his foot hitting the ground and all of his 260+ pounds coming down on top of it. Then he just ties his shoe and carries on. That's not HGH or whatever. That's being extremely blessed and disciplined on your body. The guy is 41, putting up statlines like this last 28,8,8 and dunking like he is 28.

If it was just PEDs then you would find many more anomalies.

People don't accept what they have seen for over two decades now. He is just that different. He may not be the best player ever if you're picking one season or one stretch. The guy won everywhere.. with a slew of different teammates and playstyles. Overall, he is the greatest NBA player of all time. There is no question or debate.

Before all of the MJ heads deny that. Answer me this. You replace LeBron with MJ on those Bulls teams. Do they not still win? You replace MJ with LeBron on those early Finals Cavs teams? Are they sniffing the finals? Remember MJ didn't do shit until the first 3 peat began.

LeBron let's just say he was cheating all along, he's still the best basketball player of all time. Now for me MJ is still the greatest basketball player of all time. MJ compared to that era was just far superior and even today, no one can really match his combo of athleticism and skill going to the hoop. Ant is kind of close, but still. MJ was better.

And if the 3P shot mattered like it does now, MJ would have been killing that too. The level of competition matters.

LeBrons combo of passing and physicality makes him a better player, but the ultimate winner was MJ. He's still the greatest.

[guest81]

Even if LeBron is on HGH or whatever. Most players probably are. The fact that he has had zero major injuries in 22 years, with his added postseason play, is pure insanity. No acl tear, Achilles, calf or hamstring tear. Foot/ankle issues. Broken bone. Major surgeries. Nothing.

Add to that that he has been pretty much entirely clean even though he's been under the public microscope since he was a teen. All without a father figure too. And by all accounts he seems to be a dang good husband and father himself.

He really is a marvel.

Yeah, I really think it's 99.9% chance he's on something. I just don't think it's possible to maintain that size and health and explosiveness without it, especially at his age.

Just going back to how like Bonds went from an avg looking athlete to a powerhouse of a bomber breaking records in a couple years. It's pretty telling.

As far as most players? I don't think a lot of them are if I were to guess. Especially the skinnier guys don't look it, like say Stepth or Durant or most NBA players. They look really normal athlete like and do have lots of nagging injuries too. LeBron never has looked normal to me. Plus he said he spends a million a year or something stupid on his body. Yeah we know dude.

I guess I just always thought from day 1 he's been cheating, his longevity now even more so confirms it. Not to say it's only X banned substance, because obviously it's not, it takes everything and then some, but to hold that level for so long. Unbelievable.

There's just no way in this day in age when there is no privacy and everything gets leaked, that someone of LeBrons stature would of never got caught in 20 years. It's impossible. Someone would of leaked it by now

[60WinTim]

J-Will out with a left hammy. Suns trying to make it interesting…

[Wolvesfan21]

Even if LeBron is on HGH or whatever. Most players probably are. The fact that he has had zero major injuries in 22 years, with his added postseason play, is pure insanity. No acl tear, Achilles, calf or hamstring tear. Foot/ankle issues. Broken bone. Major surgeries. Nothing.

Add to that that he has been pretty much entirely clean even though he's been under the public microscope since he was a teen. All without a father figure too. And by all accounts he seems to be a dang good husband and father himself.

He really is a marvel.

Yeah, I really think it's 99.9% chance he's on something. I just don't think it's possible to maintain that size and health and explosiveness without it, especially at his age.

Just going back to how like Bonds went from an avg looking athlete to a powerhouse of a bomber breaking records in a couple years. It's pretty telling.

As far as most players? I don't think a lot of them are if I were to guess. Especially the skinnier guys don't look it, like say Stepth or Durant or most NBA players. They look really normal athlete like and do have lots of nagging injuries too. LeBron never has looked normal to me. Plus he said he spends a million a year or something stupid on his body. Yeah we know dude.

I guess I just always thought from day 1 he's been cheating, his longevity now even more so confirms it. Not to say it's only X banned substance, because obviously it's not, it takes everything and then some, but to hold that level for so long. Unbelievable.

There's just no way in this day in age when there is no privacy and everything gets leaked, that someone of LeBrons stature would of never got caught in 20 years. It's impossible. Someone would of leaked it by now

It can be done, those involved have no interest in revealing it.

Heck look how close Lance Armstrong got to getting away with it, in fact he did for a long time, It took many years after his retirement and everyone really inside KNEW already he was doping, even the testing facilities. Not everyone knows LeBron is. The circle can be much smaller.

[TheFuture]

Yeah, I really think it's 99.9% chance he's on something. I just don't think it's possible to maintain that size and health and explosiveness without it, especially at his age.

Just going back to how like Bonds went from an avg looking athlete to a powerhouse of a bomber breaking records in a couple years. It's pretty telling.

As far as most players? I don't think a lot of them are if I were to guess. Especially the skinnier guys don't look it, like say Stepth or Durant or most NBA players. They look really normal athlete like and do have lots of nagging injuries too. LeBron never has looked normal to me. Plus he said he spends a million a year or something stupid on his body. Yeah we know dude.

I guess I just always thought from day 1 he's been cheating, his longevity now even more so confirms it. Not to say it's only X banned substance, because obviously it's not, it takes everything and then some, but to hold that level for so long. Unbelievable.

Yeah, I just don't care about HGH, steroids, "performance enhancing drugs". It can help, but it doesn't usurp the actual skill level. I hate professional wrestling, some people love it. All of them are just roided up people doing choreography. The choreography is a definite skill and dedication. Sports are all just entertainment. So do whatever, and entertain with your unique skillset.

You could pump me with all of the steroids Bonds took and I am not launching every third pitch over the fence.

I don't know if or what LeBron takes. I don't care. I just know the guy has never had a freaking injury. Ever. We've all seen him roll his ankle 90 degrees with the side of his foot hitting the ground and all of his 260+ pounds coming down on top of it. Then he just ties his shoe and carries on. That's not HGH or whatever. That's being extremely blessed and disciplined on your body. The guy is 41, putting up statlines like this last 28,8,8 and dunking like he is 28.

If it was just PEDs then you would find many more anomalies.

People don't accept what they have seen for over two decades now. He is just that different. He may not be the best player ever if you're picking one season or one stretch. The guy won everywhere.. with a slew of different teammates and playstyles. Overall, he is the greatest NBA player of all time. There is no question or debate.

Before all of the MJ heads deny that. Answer me this. You replace LeBron with MJ on those Bulls teams. Do they not still win? You replace MJ with LeBron on those early Finals Cavs teams? Are they sniffing the finals? Remember MJ didn't do shit until the first 3 peat began.

LeBron let's just say he was cheating all along, he's still the best basketball player of all time. Now for me MJ is still the greatest basketball player of all time. MJ compared to that era was just far superior and even today, no one can really match his combo of athleticism and skill going to the hoop. Ant is kind of close, but still. MJ was better.

And if the 3P shot mattered like it does now, MJ would have been killing that too. The level of competition matters.

LeBrons combo of passing and physicality makes him a better player, but the ultimate winner was MJ. He's still the greatest.

I was kind of understanding your point, and then you said Ant was close to MJ and I lost focus.

LeBron is better overall than MJ ever was.

Ant is nowhere close to them.

[Wolvesfan21]

Yeah, I just don't care about HGH, steroids, "performance enhancing drugs". It can help, but it doesn't usurp the actual skill level. I hate professional wrestling, some people love it. All of them are just roided up people doing choreography. The choreography is a definite skill and dedication. Sports are all just entertainment. So do whatever, and entertain with your unique skillset.

You could pump me with all of the steroids Bonds took and I am not launching every third pitch over the fence.

I don't know if or what LeBron takes. I don't care. I just know the guy has never had a freaking injury. Ever. We've all seen him roll his ankle 90 degrees with the side of his foot hitting the ground and all of his 260+ pounds coming down on top of it. Then he just ties his shoe and carries on. That's not HGH or whatever. That's being extremely blessed and disciplined on your body. The guy is 41, putting up statlines like this last 28,8,8 and dunking like he is 28.

If it was just PEDs then you would find many more anomalies.

People don't accept what they have seen for over two decades now. He is just that different. He may not be the best player ever if you're picking one season or one stretch. The guy won everywhere.. with a slew of different teammates and playstyles. Overall, he is the greatest NBA player of all time. There is no question or debate.

Before all of the MJ heads deny that. Answer me this. You replace LeBron with MJ on those Bulls teams. Do they not still win? You replace MJ with LeBron on those early Finals Cavs teams? Are they sniffing the finals? Remember MJ didn't do shit until the first 3 peat began.

LeBron let's just say he was cheating all along, he's still the best basketball player of all time. Now for me MJ is still the greatest basketball player of all time. MJ compared to that era was just far superior and even today, no one can really match his combo of athleticism and skill going to the hoop. Ant is kind of close, but still. MJ was better.

And if the 3P shot mattered like it does now, MJ would have been killing that too. The level of competition matters.

LeBrons combo of passing and physicality makes him a better player, but the ultimate winner was MJ. He's still the greatest.

I was kind of understanding your point, and then you said Ant was close to MJ and I lost focus.

LeBron is better overall than MJ ever was.

Ant is nowhere close to them.

I'm not the only one, how Ant looks driving to the hoop is a bit MJ like. Not as good but close.