Wolves Offseason Point Guard Options

[rapsuperstar31]

The Kyrie gamble has yet to work out for any team. Ja hasn't worked for 4 years now, and hasn't improved a lick. Garland is often injured and paid way too much.. Murray is often injured, but he did improve his shooting while his defense has dipped. He is also paid the least of the 4 and has plus size at the position so I'd choose him of the 4, but I really would rather not touch any of them.

Dallas got pretty close, that teams needed another shooter to space the floor against Boston, and Luka was a cone on defense in that series. The half court alley oops would be fun to watch for a few years, and maybe he can rub off on Ant and the others with his passing. I wouldn't trade much for him. Randle a trade exception and one draft pick.

Dallas doesn't need Randle, like at all. They have Washington and Flagg who can play there. They have Lively, Gafford, and Flagg as their own great lob threats who Kyrie can utilize. Moving Kyrie for Randle just creates their own PG problem. Their pick at #9 is also going to be where a lot of PGs or PFs are expected to be available. So if it's a PG they'd want Kyrie as the mentor, and if it's a PF then they'd be jammed up if they added Randle. Not to mention Middletons contract is falling off and they'll have some cap to play with in FA.

I'd imagine it would be more of a three team trade with Randle to Detroit, Phoenix, or another team that sends players or picks to Dallas.

[TheFuture]

Dallas got pretty close, that teams needed another shooter to space the floor against Boston, and Luka was a cone on defense in that series. The half court alley oops would be fun to watch for a few years, and maybe he can rub off on Ant and the others with his passing. I wouldn't trade much for him. Randle a trade exception and one draft pick.

Dallas doesn't need Randle, like at all. They have Washington and Flagg who can play there. They have Lively, Gafford, and Flagg as their own great lob threats who Kyrie can utilize. Moving Kyrie for Randle just creates their own PG problem. Their pick at #9 is also going to be where a lot of PGs or PFs are expected to be available. So if it's a PG they'd want Kyrie as the mentor, and if it's a PF then they'd be jammed up if they added Randle. Not to mention Middletons contract is falling off and they'll have some cap to play with in FA.

I'd imagine it would be more of a three team trade with Randle to Detroit, Phoenix, or another team that sends players or picks to Dallas.

What PG are either of those teams giving to Dallas to replace Kyrie? Whom is expected to be 1a or 1b with Flagg. All their other players are 3rd‐5th options.

I don't envision the Wolves getting a top 20 PG with Randle as the centerpiece. I think we're stuck patchworking a platoon with serviceable, best served as high end backup types with Ayo and Bones. Im fine with that. The available true starters are on teams that don't need a PF. Chicago, Indiana (Nembhard), Toronto, Pelicans, etc. It's tough without electing to move Rudy or taking on a risk that I think would be stupid or doesn't make sense for the other team, i.e. Kyrie, Suggs, Ja, or Dejounte.

[Wolvesfan21]

Dallas doesn't need Randle, like at all. They have Washington and Flagg who can play there. They have Lively, Gafford, and Flagg as their own great lob threats who Kyrie can utilize. Moving Kyrie for Randle just creates their own PG problem. Their pick at #9 is also going to be where a lot of PGs or PFs are expected to be available. So if it's a PG they'd want Kyrie as the mentor, and if it's a PF then they'd be jammed up if they added Randle. Not to mention Middletons contract is falling off and they'll have some cap to play with in FA.

I'd imagine it would be more of a three team trade with Randle to Detroit, Phoenix, or another team that sends players or picks to Dallas.

What PG are either of those teams giving to Dallas to replace Kyrie? Whom is expected to be 1a or 1b with Flagg. All their other players are 3rd‐5th options.

I don't envision the Wolves getting a top 20 PG with Randle as the centerpiece. I think we're stuck patchworking a platoon with serviceable, best served as high end backup types with Ayo and Bones. Im fine with that. The available true starters are on teams that don't need a PF. Chicago, Indiana (Nembhard), Toronto, Pelicans, etc. It's tough without electing to move Rudy or taking on a risk that I think would be stupid or doesn't make sense for the other team, i.e. Kyrie, Suggs, Ja, or Dejounte.

The Heat still want Randle too, I think you could expand the list a bit. Maybe a Herro to Dallas, Ju to Heat and Kyrie to Wolves deal, something like that. Dallas drafts another PG in draft whos not 34 YO and will be around in 4-5 years when Dallas hopes to be good.

I think Ju's value isn't as bad as we think. There are plenty of middling teams who would like to have him.

[TheFuture]

I'd imagine it would be more of a three team trade with Randle to Detroit, Phoenix, or another team that sends players or picks to Dallas.

What PG are either of those teams giving to Dallas to replace Kyrie? Whom is expected to be 1a or 1b with Flagg. All their other players are 3rd‐5th options.

I don't envision the Wolves getting a top 20 PG with Randle as the centerpiece. I think we're stuck patchworking a platoon with serviceable, best served as high end backup types with Ayo and Bones. Im fine with that. The available true starters are on teams that don't need a PF. Chicago, Indiana (Nembhard), Toronto, Pelicans, etc. It's tough without electing to move Rudy or taking on a risk that I think would be stupid or doesn't make sense for the other team, i.e. Kyrie, Suggs, Ja, or Dejounte.

The Heat still want Randle too, I think you could expand the list a bit. Maybe a Herro to Dallas, Ju to Heat and Kyrie to Wolves deal, something like that. Dallas drafts another PG in draft whos not 34 YO and will be around in 4-5 years when Dallas hopes to be good.

I think Ju's value isn't as bad as we think. There are plenty of middling teams who would like to have him.

What is the fascination with Kyrie? Why do WE want a pg coming off injury, who wears out his welcome everywhere, and will be 35 this year. Didn't we just go through this? We would be using our last assets to gain a depreciating asset and be in the same position in a year or two with even less options. This team needs to find a 4+ year solution at PG this offseason or next. If you move Randle and Divencenzo for a Kyrie, then you create a hole at PF without gaining a long-term answer at pg, while still having a hole of a proven backup C. If the idea is to have Jaden soak up some PF minutes, well then there is a hole as well of a proven backup SF.

I don't see any great answer other than working the margins at PG, and parceling Randle and Divo into 2-3 rotational players. Kyrie, Ja, Suggs, Garland, or Murray are not the answer. They'd all eat up all the money and they all carry too much inherent risk, whether it is age, injuries, inability to shoot or defend.

[rapsuperstar31]

What PG are either of those teams giving to Dallas to replace Kyrie? Whom is expected to be 1a or 1b with Flagg. All their other players are 3rd‐5th options.

I don't envision the Wolves getting a top 20 PG with Randle as the centerpiece. I think we're stuck patchworking a platoon with serviceable, best served as high end backup types with Ayo and Bones. Im fine with that. The available true starters are on teams that don't need a PF. Chicago, Indiana (Nembhard), Toronto, Pelicans, etc. It's tough without electing to move Rudy or taking on a risk that I think would be stupid or doesn't make sense for the other team, i.e. Kyrie, Suggs, Ja, or Dejounte.

The Heat still want Randle too, I think you could expand the list a bit. Maybe a Herro to Dallas, Ju to Heat and Kyrie to Wolves deal, something like that. Dallas drafts another PG in draft whos not 34 YO and will be around in 4-5 years when Dallas hopes to be good.

I think Ju's value isn't as bad as we think. There are plenty of middling teams who would like to have him.

What is the fascination with Kyrie? Why do WE want a pg coming off injury, who wears out his welcome everywhere, and will be 35 this year. Didn't we just go through this? We would be using our last assets to gain a depreciating asset and be in the same position in a year or two with even less options. This team needs to find a 4+ year solution at PG this offseason or next. If you move Randle and Divencenzo for a Kyrie, then you create a hole at PF without gaining a long-term answer at pg, while still having a hole of a proven backup C. If the idea is to have Jaden soak up some PF minutes, well then there is a hole as well of a proven backup SF.

I don't see any great answer other than working the margins at PG, and parceling Randle and Divo into 2-3 rotational players. Kyrie, Ja, Suggs, Garland, or Murray are not the answer. They'd all eat up all the money and they all carry too much inherent risk, whether it is age, injuries, inability to shoot or defend.

I think Ant likes Kyrie, and that is good enough reason.

[rapsuperstar31]

Trading for the 5th-8th pick to grab Darius Acuff would be a great option for a long term solution at pg, but probably not realistic. However trading up into that 10-14 range to grab Labaron Philon would be easier and could be a home run trade up if we can pull it off. Hell figure out how to get two picks in that range to grab Philon at pg, and Yaxel Lendeborg at pf. OKC has picks 12 and 17 with no roster spaces, and they are always looking for future draft capital. Future first round picks could be more valuable to OKC this year. Draft a player at 12 and use 17 and 28 to move up for both players.

[WildWolf2813]

Dallas doesn't need Randle, like at all. They have Washington and Flagg who can play there. They have Lively, Gafford, and Flagg as their own great lob threats who Kyrie can utilize. Moving Kyrie for Randle just creates their own PG problem. Their pick at #9 is also going to be where a lot of PGs or PFs are expected to be available. So if it's a PG they'd want Kyrie as the mentor, and if it's a PF then they'd be jammed up if they added Randle. Not to mention Middletons contract is falling off and they'll have some cap to play with in FA.

I'd imagine it would be more of a three team trade with Randle to Detroit, Phoenix, or another team that sends players or picks to Dallas.

What PG are either of those teams giving to Dallas to replace Kyrie? Whom is expected to be 1a or 1b with Flagg. All their other players are 3rd‐5th options.

I don't envision the Wolves getting a top 20 PG with Randle as the centerpiece. I think we're stuck patchworking a platoon with serviceable, best served as high end backup types with Ayo and Bones. Im fine with that. The available true starters are on teams that don't need a PF. Chicago, Indiana (Nembhard), Toronto, Pelicans, etc. It's tough without electing to move Rudy or taking on a risk that I think would be stupid or doesn't make sense for the other team, i.e. Kyrie, Suggs, Ja, or Dejounte.

They're in line to be able to draft a PG at 9.

[WildWolf2813]

What PG are either of those teams giving to Dallas to replace Kyrie? Whom is expected to be 1a or 1b with Flagg. All their other players are 3rd‐5th options.

I don't envision the Wolves getting a top 20 PG with Randle as the centerpiece. I think we're stuck patchworking a platoon with serviceable, best served as high end backup types with Ayo and Bones. Im fine with that. The available true starters are on teams that don't need a PF. Chicago, Indiana (Nembhard), Toronto, Pelicans, etc. It's tough without electing to move Rudy or taking on a risk that I think would be stupid or doesn't make sense for the other team, i.e. Kyrie, Suggs, Ja, or Dejounte.

The Heat still want Randle too, I think you could expand the list a bit. Maybe a Herro to Dallas, Ju to Heat and Kyrie to Wolves deal, something like that. Dallas drafts another PG in draft whos not 34 YO and will be around in 4-5 years when Dallas hopes to be good.

I think Ju's value isn't as bad as we think. There are plenty of middling teams who would like to have him.

What is the fascination with Kyrie? Why do WE want a pg coming off injury, who wears out his welcome everywhere, and will be 35 this year. Didn't we just go through this? We would be using our last assets to gain a depreciating asset and be in the same position in a year or two with even less options. This team needs to find a 4+ year solution at PG this offseason or next. If you move Randle and Divencenzo for a Kyrie, then you create a hole at PF without gaining a long-term answer at pg, while still having a hole of a proven backup C. If the idea is to have Jaden soak up some PF minutes, well then there is a hole as well of a proven backup SF.

I don't see any great answer other than working the margins at PG, and parceling Randle and Divo into 2-3 rotational players. Kyrie, Ja, Suggs, Garland, or Murray are not the answer. They'd all eat up all the money and they all carry too much inherent risk, whether it is age, injuries, inability to shoot or defend.

There's an easy answer to your question:

Because Connelly screwed up the one shot he had at addressing not just the PG of the future but potentially the sidekick to Ant that we need.

And people think moving Randle /DDV isn't much of a loss for Kyrie because fans still have major faith that Reid can be a legit starter.

[Wolvesfan21]

What PG are either of those teams giving to Dallas to replace Kyrie? Whom is expected to be 1a or 1b with Flagg. All their other players are 3rd‐5th options.

I don't envision the Wolves getting a top 20 PG with Randle as the centerpiece. I think we're stuck patchworking a platoon with serviceable, best served as high end backup types with Ayo and Bones. Im fine with that. The available true starters are on teams that don't need a PF. Chicago, Indiana (Nembhard), Toronto, Pelicans, etc. It's tough without electing to move Rudy or taking on a risk that I think would be stupid or doesn't make sense for the other team, i.e. Kyrie, Suggs, Ja, or Dejounte.

The Heat still want Randle too, I think you could expand the list a bit. Maybe a Herro to Dallas, Ju to Heat and Kyrie to Wolves deal, something like that. Dallas drafts another PG in draft whos not 34 YO and will be around in 4-5 years when Dallas hopes to be good.

I think Ju's value isn't as bad as we think. There are plenty of middling teams who would like to have him.

What is the fascination with Kyrie? Why do WE want a pg coming off injury, who wears out his welcome everywhere, and will be 35 this year. Didn't we just go through this? We would be using our last assets to gain a depreciating asset and be in the same position in a year or two with even less options. This team needs to find a 4+ year solution at PG this offseason or next. If you move Randle and Divencenzo for a Kyrie, then you create a hole at PF without gaining a long-term answer at pg, while still having a hole of a proven backup C. If the idea is to have Jaden soak up some PF minutes, well then there is a hole as well of a proven backup SF.

I don't see any great answer other than working the margins at PG, and parceling Randle and Divo into 2-3 rotational players. Kyrie, Ja, Suggs, Garland, or Murray are not the answer. They'd all eat up all the money and they all carry too much inherent risk, whether it is age, injuries, inability to shoot or defend.

I think we're too far away from OKC or SA without a big swing and homerun. Thats why. Any middling/minor move likely doesn't move the needle enough to give us any real chance. You get a 90% plus version of Kyrie and now all of a sudden you are a dangerous threat.

[TheFuture]

The Heat still want Randle too, I think you could expand the list a bit. Maybe a Herro to Dallas, Ju to Heat and Kyrie to Wolves deal, something like that. Dallas drafts another PG in draft whos not 34 YO and will be around in 4-5 years when Dallas hopes to be good.

I think Ju's value isn't as bad as we think. There are plenty of middling teams who would like to have him.

What is the fascination with Kyrie? Why do WE want a pg coming off injury, who wears out his welcome everywhere, and will be 35 this year. Didn't we just go through this? We would be using our last assets to gain a depreciating asset and be in the same position in a year or two with even less options. This team needs to find a 4+ year solution at PG this offseason or next. If you move Randle and Divencenzo for a Kyrie, then you create a hole at PF without gaining a long-term answer at pg, while still having a hole of a proven backup C. If the idea is to have Jaden soak up some PF minutes, well then there is a hole as well of a proven backup SF.

I don't see any great answer other than working the margins at PG, and parceling Randle and Divo into 2-3 rotational players. Kyrie, Ja, Suggs, Garland, or Murray are not the answer. They'd all eat up all the money and they all carry too much inherent risk, whether it is age, injuries, inability to shoot or defend.

I think we're too far away from OKC or SA without a big swing and homerun. Thats why. Any middling/minor move likely doesn't move the needle enough to give us any real chance. You get a 90% plus version of Kyrie and now all of a sudden you are a dangerous threat.

I dont think that makes the team a dangerous threat. Kyrie makes more than Julius. You're likely going to see a pick going as well and maybe a player like TSJ. You're now struggling more to try to re-sign Ayo and fill out the bench because you're removing our main punch from the bench in Naz. There is no depth in the frontcourt or on the wing.

Divo is a sunk cost 11.5mil.

I think it is insane to blindly trade for a smaller pg who is going to be 35 coming off a major injury that you haven't seen play in a game going on what will be a year.