Wolves Offseason Point Guard Options

[rapsuperstar31]

We should grab Davion Mitchell from Miami if they end up moving him in a Giannis pursuit. I don't think they want to move him, but maybe they decide on it. He's small but Ant had this to say about him after the last game we played against them.

"I just try to get as much sleep as possible, because Davion Mitchell always gives me a hard time. I try to get in bed by like 9:30 PM because I know it's going to be a long day. He's going to chase me around, so I had to be ready,"

[Lipoli390]

We should grab Davion Mitchell from Miami if they end up moving him in a Giannis pursuit. I don't think they want to move him, but maybe they decide on it. He's small but Ant had this to say about him after the last game we played against them.

"I just try to get as much sleep as possible, because Davion Mitchell always gives me a hard time. I try to get in bed by like 9:30 PM because I know it's going to be a long day. He's going to chase me around, so I had to be ready,"

I like that idea. TC needs to be opportunistic. We’re not in a position realistically to acquire Giannis, but perhaps we can get in on a Giannis deal to get the sort of complementary player who would result in a net improvement in our team.

[Lipoli390]

Because it took half the team getting injured for Finch to play Shannon. I'm aware that Shannon and Beringer will enter the rotation and if they succeed, then that will help, but these are still guys on their rookie deals that Finch will be hesitant to use. If he wants to fall back on a vet, have it be someone he can use that's functional any given night as opposed to Conley.

Also because I'm referring to what he can sign in free agency to round out the rotation. Could the #28 pick be a cheap contributor? I hope. Should he be a cheap contributor? Yes. Will he be a cheap contributor? Finch is still the coach so I doubt it.

For example, Ajay Mitchell is a good pick. Mitchell getting $9 mil for 3 years is awesome. Even if say Shannon blows up this year, he then becomes extension eligible and he'll want much more than what Mitchell got. The cheap talent always has to be there.

I generally agree with Wild, but I also join Q in seeing multiple ways of improving the team without breaking the bank or squandering the few forward-looking assets (picks and young players) we have left. I will say this about TC. He has yet to earn his pay. He continues to live largely off of what what was bequeathed to him by Rosas - namely Ant, Jaden and Naz. I’ll credit TC for retaining Naz and Jaden on reasonable contracts. I liked the Mike Conley deal, but it produced a very short term benefit because of Conley’s age and our cap constraints that kept us from retaining NAW - cap constraints created in large part by moves TC made. I believe that TSJ can be a very good player for us, but I don’t trust Finch to give TSJ the runway he needs to succeed and that comes back to TC who has to make sure the entire organization is aligned and thinking a step or two ahead.

Bottom line for me is that, before TC arrived, we were a 46-win, 7th place team, built around KAT, Ant, Jaden and Naz when the latter three weren’t even 21 years old. Ant was 19 at the time in only his second season. This past season we won 49 games with Ant, Jaden, Naz nearing their prime. We lost KAT while adding Rudy, Randle, and Donte. The result was 3 more wins and one increment higher in the standings. I know it’s not quite as simple as comparing records in two different seasons and I don’t consider TC a failure. But the evidence so far shows TC coming up short of the level of success I would expect from someone who is considered an elite basketball executive given the wealth he inherited from his predecessor.

This will be a crucial summer for TC in my view. Will he be able to reconfigure our roster around Ant in a way that puts this team on track towards championship contention? He has some assets to work with for trades and he has managed the cap well enough to leave room for a free agent signing or two. He has TSJ and Beringer, who I consider good picks but they need playing time to develop and show what they can do. I think TC is a smart guy and he’s obviously highly respected around the League but at some point he has to show results and to me that starts with getting back into the top four in the standings and back to the Western Conference Finals. Then maybe we’ll be where the Knicks are right now.

A couple things to add to some good discussion here.

-Personally I think Finch not playing young players is more on Connelly than it is on Finch. Why? 1. Connelly has done well keeping the roster well stocked with talent. At times there hasn't been a clear runway for some young players. So in some ways Connelly is doing his job too well. 2. Some of the young players that Connelly has added to the team really haven't been that good. TSJ last year the biggest reason he didn't play more was he was injured. Dillingham wasn't good and Bones a guy Connelly signed when most of this board was upset he didn't sign someone else was simply better. I think if a guy can play Finch is gonna play them. Dillingham played himself out of a role at least a couple times here. If he blows up and becomes good later than we can revisit this but I haven't seen anything to say he will. I have hope for him but I wouldn't bet on it either.

The Russell for Conley trade still has some effects on the roster today. There were four 2nd round picks sent to Chicago and one of those was from the NAW sign and trade. Rocco is a draft selection from the Utah trade as well. It's hard to keep track but I think the trade down that led to select Rocco led to a 2032 pick that was likely also in the Ayo deal. So at the very least you have some piece of the Ayo deal and Rocco from that deal so that's not nothing. I'll stand way over here and mention that until Julian Phillips is off the roster I'm considering it possible he has some value. Miller was acquired in part by using a pick from the Utah deal and so Phillips could also be a factor from that deal. I fully admit that one looks like a stretch right now but Connelly has found value in moves like that before. If they wanted Phillips why didn't he play? Probably because Clark was in front of him. That might not be the case next season...if Phillips is even here. Lol

Those are great points, Monster!

[rapsuperstar31]

Don't look now, our guy Ricky back to doing what he loves.

Ricky Rubio (23 pts, 4 ast, in 21 min) powers Joventut Badalona into the ACB semi-finals in his first playoff series with his hometown club since 2009

[rapsuperstar31]

Pacers are interested in Trey Murphy who the Pelicans want a Bane like return for. If the Pacers end up offering Nembhard, I would inquire into what we can add to the trade to get him routed here. Andrew was quite effective guarding both Brunson and SGA in last years playoffs.

[WildWolf2813]

Pacers are interested in Trey Murphy who the Pelicans want a Bane like return for. If the Pacers end up offering Nembhard, I would inquire into what we can add to the trade to get him routed here. Andrew was quite effective guarding both Brunson and SGA in last years playoffs.

if they're offering Nembhard to NO why would the Pels reroute him here?


New Orleans and Indiana (especially Indiana) are two teams who don't need Randle.

[rapsuperstar31]

Pacers are interested in Trey Murphy who the Pelicans want a Bane like return for. If the Pacers end up offering Nembhard, I would inquire into what we can add to the trade to get him routed here. Andrew was quite effective guarding both Brunson and SGA in last years playoffs.

if they're offering Nembhard to NO why would the Pels reroute him here?


New Orleans and Indiana (especially Indiana) are two teams who don't need Randle.

I didn't say Randle, I would give up first round picks for Nembhard and the Pels end up getting multiple first round picks between both the Wolves and Pacers in a multi team trade. I don't know about trading Rudy but if we don't want to give up firsts for Nembhard than Rudy to Charlotte, Charlotte sends multiple first to the Pelicans, Indiana sends first round picks to the Pelicans. Trades can be three, four, hell the Durant trade ended up being a 7 team trade, and the draft time is the best time to make those kinds of trades.

[AussieWolf3]

Pacers are interested in Trey Murphy who the Pelicans want a Bane like return for. If the Pacers end up offering Nembhard, I would inquire into what we can add to the trade to get him routed here. Andrew was quite effective guarding both Brunson and SGA in last years playoffs.

if they're offering Nembhard to NO why would the Pels reroute him here?


New Orleans and Indiana (especially Indiana) are two teams who don't need Randle.

I didn't say Randle, I would give up first round picks for Nembhard and the Pels end up getting multiple first round picks between both the Wolves and Pacers in a multi team trade. I don't know about trading Rudy but if we don't want to give up firsts for Nembhard than Rudy to Charlotte, Charlotte sends multiple first to the Pelicans, Indiana sends first round picks to the Pelicans. Trades can be three, four, hell the Durant trade ended up being a 7 team trade, and the draft time is the best time to make those kinds of trades.

I was just thinking about Nembhard the other day as well, he become a bit of a forgotten man after a lost season, but wouldn't he be the absolute the absolute perfect man to get?

I agree that I would give up multiple first to acquire him, which might be tricky to pull off, but for sure try to get in on that kinda movement.

I'll say again, it would be a dream to move Rudy and Randle for assets, trade for a player like Nembhard and somehow sign IHart in FA. Essentially converting Randle into a guard and Rudy into a younger, slightly more capable on offense center. But I'm pretty sure this is impossible to pull off timing wise without incurring extreme risk... Maybe worth the gamble?

[Q-is-here]

Nembhard would be great...Mmmm, not on my master PG list, but then again, never thought he'd be someone made available by Indiana given his age and continual improvement as a player.

Feels like the Pacers let go of the rope a bit too much last season. Obviously losing Haliburton hurt big time, but to still only win 19 games...in the East no less!? That is quite the implosion with a team that still had Nembard, Siakim, Nesmith, McConnell, and Rick Carlisle at the helm. Hard for me to believe that they can recreate the magic of two seasons ago after basically not trying last year.

[AussieWolf3]

Nembhard would be great...Mmmm, not on my master PG list, but then again, never thought he'd be someone made available by Indiana given his age and continual improvement as a player.

Feels like the Pacers let go of the rope a bit too much last season. Obviously losing Haliburton hurt big time, but to still only win 19 games...in the East no less!? That is quite the implosion with a team that still had Nembard, Siakim, Nesmith, McConnell, and Rick Carlisle at the helm. Hard for me to believe that they can recreate the magic of two seasons ago after basically not trying last year.

Well wasn't the plan to tank for a top a pick, and didn't they basically blow that with Zubac trade? I don't remember the details but I feel like I heard that they lost their pick.

Which would be to your point that the rope was indeed let go of.