Randle traded to Brooklyn in 3 team deal

[Lipoli390]

Wolves can acquire a player that makes 33 million or less in a trade with no financial restriction (wolves would need to send a pick or player back)

Does the exception only be able to be used on on player? Like for example if they added Isaiah Stewart for 15 million would they have any left? I can't remember and I think they maybe changed these rules.

I know you used to not be able to add a sign and trade player with another player but I think in some circumstances you can?

I’m not 100% but I believe it can add multiple players in the expectation because the wolves used some of the Naw trade exception to bring in Ayo if I remember right

Yes, you can use portions of a trade exception in separate trades. So we could use $15 million in a trade for Stewart and use the remaining $15.3 million in other trades. What we can’t do is aggregate a trade exception with player salaries as part of an outgoing package.

[Mnwild1128]

Now i want to see Gobert go to the Hawks.

For what? Okonwu and two firsts? Could be a good partner. Rudy still has significant value after what he did to jokic in the 1st round. I’m ready to move on for the right package

Yes. Either Kispert or Risacher would also need to be added to match salaries. I would prefer Risacher for possible upside. We know what Kispert is at this point.

[AussieWolf3]

Now i want to see Gobert go to the Hawks.

For what? Okonwu and two firsts? Could be a good partner. Rudy still has significant value after what he did to jokic in the 1st round. I’m ready to move on for the right package

That would be an insane trade! Smash accept

[KiwiMatt]

A 33.33 million trade exception is quite the 'asset' to have in the cupboard. That is the biggest takeaway from this trade.

[D-Loser25]

Clearly this trade was all about financial flexibility. This deal drops our payroll by $33.3 million and saves an addition $1 million moving our pick from the first to second round. So this deal gives the Wolves massive payroll relief of over $34 million or a $33 million trade exception of they choose to use it

The cap relief is so big that it will allow the Wolves to use the full $15 million Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception (MLE) and the $5.5 million Bi-Annual Exception (BAE) rather than the taxpayer MLE of $6 million. That’s huge. The Wolves can now sign a free agent at the full MLE, and maybe even squeeze in a second FA at the BAE level, before using Bird rights to re-sign Ayo at around $20 million without going over the 2nd apron.

An alternative path would be using the $33.3 million trade exception to use in a deal to acquire a high-priced veteran without trading Rudy, Jaden or Naz. Could the trade target be Fox? Ja Morant? Kevin Durant? I see those three as high-priced vets their respective teams would probably like to unload for financial reasons. Maybe TSJ and our two second round picks this year along with our 2033 1st for one of those three. I hope not, but that sort of deal for one of those three seems plausible.

We moved Randle why take on a high priced guy? We can pick through guys that are not overpriced. Heck for example I'm over Grant Williams he isn't worth 14 million. He might actually be worth 10 million but idk if he would actually get that on the open market.

I completely agree with you, Monster. I sure hope the Wolves don’t go down the trade exception path for a high-priced veteran like any of the three I mentioned. And I continue to hope we re-sign Ayo and don’t trade any of our younger guys: Ant, Jaden, Naz, Beringer, Rocco and TSJ. I like the opportunity we have to move the needle through free agent acquisitions and/or a smart strategic trade involving Rudy Gobert. There are some nice free agent centers to consider if we move Rudy for a PG like Suggs, Giddy or Darrick White. Those centers include Mitchell Robinson, Zach Collins, Robert Williams, and Nick Richards. There’s also Andre Drummond and Jaxon Hayes who should get gettable on vet minimum deals or vial the BAE. For more depth at PF I like both Sochan and Achiuwa. I like Tyus Jones as a cheap PG free agent likely gettable at the vet minimum.

If it were me, I’d try to trade Rudy for Suggs, Giddy or White but I would not give up any of our precious few picks this year or in the future for any of those three. Instead, I’d push for getting a pick or two as part of the return package. Otherwise, I’d consider trading Rudy for multiple picks and a lesser, lower priced player in return to fill some of the empty space in our draft cupboards and give us even more financial flexibility in the FA market. If we trade Rudy and free up some additional cap space, I’d be all over trying to sign Mitchell Robinson with Nick Richards as my second choice. Andre Drummond would be a cheap bridge to our younger centers and someone who could pick up a good chunk of the rebounds we get from Rudy.

I really like where you’re at here with your list of those three guards. I might need a first to come back with at least a couple of them (for Rudy) but I like those 3 as targets.

[Monster]

Clearly this trade was all about financial flexibility. This deal drops our payroll by $33.3 million and saves an addition $1 million moving our pick from the first to second round. So this deal gives the Wolves massive payroll relief of over $34 million or a $33 million trade exception of they choose to use it

The cap relief is so big that it will allow the Wolves to use the full $15 million Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Exception (MLE) and the $5.5 million Bi-Annual Exception (BAE) rather than the taxpayer MLE of $6 million. That’s huge. The Wolves can now sign a free agent at the full MLE, and maybe even squeeze in a second FA at the BAE level, before using Bird rights to re-sign Ayo at around $20 million without going over the 2nd apron.

An alternative path would be using the $33.3 million trade exception to use in a deal to acquire a high-priced veteran without trading Rudy, Jaden or Naz. Could the trade target be Fox? Ja Morant? Kevin Durant? I see those three as high-priced vets their respective teams would probably like to unload for financial reasons. Maybe TSJ and our two second round picks this year along with our 2033 1st for one of those three. I hope not, but that sort of deal for one of those three seems plausible.

We moved Randle why take on a high priced guy? We can pick through guys that are not overpriced. Heck for example I'm over Grant Williams he isn't worth 14 million. He might actually be worth 10 million but idk if he would actually get that on the open market.

I completely agree with you, Monster. I sure hope the Wolves don’t go down the trade exception path for a high-priced veteran like any of the three I mentioned. And I continue to hope we re-sign Ayo and don’t trade any of our younger guys: Ant, Jaden, Naz, Beringer, Rocco and TSJ. I like the opportunity we have to move the needle through free agent acquisitions and/or a smart strategic trade involving Rudy Gobert. There are some nice free agent centers to consider if we move Rudy for a PG like Suggs, Giddy or Darrick White. Those centers include Mitchell Robinson, Zach Collins, Robert Williams, and Nick Richards. There’s also Andre Drummond and Jaxon Hayes who should get gettable on vet minimum deals or vial the BAE. For more depth at PF I like both Sochan and Achiuwa. I like Tyus Jones as a cheap PG free agent likely gettable at the vet minimum.

If it were me, I’d try to trade Rudy for Suggs, Giddy or White but I would not give up any of our precious few picks this year or in the future for any of those three. Instead, I’d push for getting a pick or two as part of the return package. Otherwise, I’d consider trading Rudy for multiple picks and a lesser, lower priced player in return to fill some of the empty space in our draft cupboards and give us even more financial flexibility in the FA market. If we trade Rudy and free up some additional cap space, I’d be all over trying to sign Mitchell Robinson with Nick Richards as my second choice. Andre Drummond would be a cheap bridge to our younger centers and someone who could pick up a good chunk of the rebounds we get from Rudy.

Personally have we traded Randle for nothing I'm not sure it makes a ton of sense to deal Gobert. Aren't there tons of nifty stats of Gobert and Naz tougher and offensively Naz as a real floor spacer makes Gobert doing his thing just fine. All those centers you mention are basically just guys that take and make shots in the paint.

Randle being dealt for nothing is basically a get out of jail free card the Wolves have way more flexibility. Here are things they can do they may not have been able to do before. I'm not suggesting they do any of all of these things but they can.

Match some sort moderate deal a team comes up with for Jaylen Clark. I'm talking even a deal for 4 million a year. They probably let him walk. They might still do that (doubt anyone offers that but yeah).

Throw a little more money at Bones to keep him here. I don't think his market will be that strong but it might take a little more than the vet min to keep him. They can afford that if they want to. If you look at some of the FAs Bones actually sounds kinda good for a cheap bench guy.

They now have a bit of an opening in the frontcourt for a big. Some players might think it's a pretty decent opportunity on a short term deal.

They don't have to worry about dumping Donte. I think it's clear they would like to keep him.

It's time to go bargain hunting!!!

Of course this could also mean Connelly makes a big move but I think this points them in a very good spot to build around their young guys.

[D-Loser25]

And our only two stretch bigs now are NAZ and ....... Rocco!

time for TC to make the shrewd free agent signings he shoulda been doing.

FA forwards

Khris Middleton
John Collins
Rui Hachimura
Kelly Oubre
Simone Fontecchio
Marvin Bagley

Problem is TC is not shrewd and guys with options won't want to play for Finch.

I agree that this is TC’s weakness. Not shrewd at finding good cheaper vets to bring in. Nice list here, especially Collins and Rui for added bench depth.

[Mnwild1128]

5yrs average 22.4 million for Ayo is too much. I personally dont think he is better than Naw. They are equal imo.

[Monster]

time for TC to make the shrewd free agent signings he shoulda been doing.

FA forwards

Khris Middleton
John Collins
Rui Hachimura
Kelly Oubre
Simone Fontecchio
Marvin Bagley

Problem is TC is not shrewd and guys with options won't want to play for Finch.

I agree that this is TC’s weakness. Not shrewd at finding good cheaper vets to bring in. Nice list here, especially Collins and Rui for added bench depth.

Bones Hyland waives hi.




Sorry I had to do that one. Lol

[rapsuperstar31]

5yrs average 22.4 million for Ayo is too much. I personally dont think he is better than Naw. They are equal imo.

Did NAW drop 43 in a playoff game? It was a shame that he got hurt, we didn't get to see Ant and Ayo healthy together.