Josh Green

[BeenLurkin]

I'll say this... IF Lebron does pick the Wolves adding a player like Josh Green suddenly looks like an even better move. So many wing options and there is the possibility of moving one for something else if needed.

So many, but Josh green is the only one besides Ayo with anything proven at the highest levels. He’s gonna play

[Monster]

I'll say this... IF Lebron does pick the Wolves adding a player like Josh Green suddenly looks like an even better move. So many wing options and there is the possibility of moving one for something else if needed.

So many, but Josh green is the only one besides Ayo with anything proven at the highest levels. He’s gonna play

100% especially after Finch was so quick to say all the good things about him yesterday at the PC.

[AbeVigodaLive]

I'll say this... IF Lebron does pick the Wolves adding a player like Josh Green suddenly looks like an even better move. So many wing options and there is the possibility of moving one for something else if needed.

So many, but Josh green is the only one besides Ayo with anything proven at the highest levels. He’s gonna play

100% especially after Finch was so quick to say all the good things about him yesterday at the PC.

To be fair, I think there's a bit of PR speak in there, too.

If the Wolves don't make any other significant moves, the Wolves need to "sell" Josh Green a bit to appease fans.

[Q-is-here]

Josh Green and Trey Lyles have both been 7th/8th men on playoff-bound teams in the Western Conference, including Green's tenure with Dallas where he played in the Finals after beating us in the Conference Finals. That doesn't make them huge factors off the bench (or as spot starters), but it does make them a viable part of our rotation. I'm hoping to not have to utter the words "he's unplayable!" too often when it comes to those two....decent floor/low ceiling types I guess?

[Lipoli390]

Josh Green and Trey Lyles have both been 7th/8th men on playoff-bound teams in the Western Conference, including Green's tenure with Dallas where he played in the Finals after beating us in the Conference Finals. That doesn't make them huge factors off the bench (or as spot starters), but it does make them a viable part of our rotation. I'm hoping to not have to utter the words "he's unplayable!" too often when it comes to those two....decent floor/low ceiling types I guess?

I don’t think we’ll have many if any “he’s unplayable” moments with either one, provided their respective roles are limited. They’re both very solid, decent rotation bench players. Josh Green in particular has been a net positive in all but two of his seasons, one of them two seasons ago when Charlotte had him playing heavy minutes as a starter.

Last season was Green’s best plus/minus and on/off season: plus-minus +207 | On-Off +4.8 (Missed the start of the year due to shoulder surgery, but was highly efficient off the bench upon returning).

[AbeVigodaLive]

Josh Green and Trey Lyles have both been 7th/8th men on playoff-bound teams in the Western Conference, including Green's tenure with Dallas where he played in the Finals after beating us in the Conference Finals. That doesn't make them huge factors off the bench (or as spot starters), but it does make them a viable part of our rotation. I'm hoping to not have to utter the words "he's unplayable!" too often when it comes to those two....decent floor/low ceiling types I guess?

While Green played in every game of those Finals... yikes.

He scored 14 points in the series-deciding blowout loss... after averaging less than 4 ppg over the previous 13 playoff games. Despite the Mavs being incredibly thin, they still cut Green's minutes once the playoffs came around, from 26 mpg to 18 mpg.

I know you're not claiming anything close to Green being a savior, but he's probably more worthy of a vet minimum deal than he is a $14M deal in 2026. He's just a guy who knows his role... which is to stay out of the way of his better, higher usage teammates. Again, value... but incredibly limited and available for cheaper.


[Note: Man... looking back at that Mavs roster, I can't help but think that it was the series we'll come to lament as the one that got away. I think the Wolves had the better squad. But Kyrie played really well with Luka and the Mavs bigs shot 40-48 fg from the field. Sprinkle in a couple of big plays or calls in big moments and you get the result we saw.]

[AussieWolf3]

Josh Green and Trey Lyles have both been 7th/8th men on playoff-bound teams in the Western Conference, including Green's tenure with Dallas where he played in the Finals after beating us in the Conference Finals. That doesn't make them huge factors off the bench (or as spot starters), but it does make them a viable part of our rotation. I'm hoping to not have to utter the words "he's unplayable!" too often when it comes to those two....decent floor/low ceiling types I guess?

While Green played in every game of those Finals... yikes.

He scored 14 points in the series-deciding blowout loss... after averaging less than 4 ppg over the previous 13 playoff games. Despite the Mavs being incredibly thin, they still cut Green's minutes once the playoffs came around, from 26 mpg to 18 mpg.

I know you're not claiming anything close to Green being a savior, but he's probably more worthy of a vet minimum deal than he is a $14M deal in 2026. He's just a guy who knows his role... which is to stay out of the way of his better, higher usage teammates. Again, value... but incredibly limited and available for cheaper.


[Note: Man... looking back at that Mavs roster, I can't help but think that it was the series we'll come to lament as the one that got away. I think the Wolves had the better squad. But Kyrie played really well with Luka and the Mavs bigs shot 40-48 fg from the field. Sprinkle in a couple of big plays or calls in big moments and you get the result we saw.]

It will be interesting to see how Green turns out if he's still on the roster at season start. I don't have any memory of him in that Dallas series haha, so I know I'm kinda of just filling in the blanks and wish casting with him based on some of his analytics and measurables.
Y'all are providing some needed context.

Regarding you small tangent, I'll just say that it's hard for me to feel too wistful about that squad. Obviously it would have been nice to see them get to the finals, but I have zero delusions that they would have beat the Celtics.
They would have been dog walked in that series if they had beaten Dallas, who I agree, the wolves had a better roster than

[Q-is-here]

Josh Green and Trey Lyles have both been 7th/8th men on playoff-bound teams in the Western Conference, including Green's tenure with Dallas where he played in the Finals after beating us in the Conference Finals. That doesn't make them huge factors off the bench (or as spot starters), but it does make them a viable part of our rotation. I'm hoping to not have to utter the words "he's unplayable!" too often when it comes to those two....decent floor/low ceiling types I guess?

While Green played in every game of those Finals... yikes.

He scored 14 points in the series-deciding blowout loss... after averaging less than 4 ppg over the previous 13 playoff games. Despite the Mavs being incredibly thin, they still cut Green's minutes once the playoffs came around, from 26 mpg to 18 mpg.

I know you're not claiming anything close to Green being a savior, but he's probably more worthy of a vet minimum deal than he is a $14M deal in 2026. He's just a guy who knows his role... which is to stay out of the way of his better, higher usage teammates. Again, value... but incredibly limited and available for cheaper.


[Note: Man... looking back at that Mavs roster, I can't help but think that it was the series we'll come to lament as the one that got away. I think the Wolves had the better squad. But Kyrie played really well with Luka and the Mavs bigs shot 40-48 fg from the field. Sprinkle in a couple of big plays or calls in big moments and you get the result we saw.]

Yeah, I agree he's not a great value at that price (Green that is). He's a classic low-mistake role player that will make his open 3s, try hard on defense without a lot of fouls, and rarely turns the ball over. But you better damn well have a couple protagonists out there with him, because he ain't gonna do anything else to tilt the flow of the game in our favor.

I'm of the mind that you tell him and Clark that they are competing with each other for minutes - may the best man win.

[Monster]

I know Lip and I definitely were interested in Grant Williams at least as a depth guy as a PF. It seemed like it may have made sense to acquire him in the deal instead of Josh Green. Tonight I was like hey what are his measurements anyways.

Grant Williams
6'5.75" in socks and 6'9.75" wingspan he was 240 lbs with 5% body fat at the combine.

Josh Green
6'4.5" in socks and 6'9.75" wingspan and was 214 lbs at the combine.

Of course then you look at athletic ability.

Williams had a what seems like a pretty good lane agility score for a PF at 10.83 but an underwhelming 26" standing vert and and 31.5" max vert. He did 20 reps of the bench press top of the class for people who participated.

Green had a 10.68 lane agility score and 30.5" standing very and 39.5" max vert. No bench press numbers it seems for this year.

So basically what separates these guys is an inch or so of length and a significant amount of girth for Williams and for Green better athletic ability.

Another consideration is Williams is 2 years older both guys were born in November.

So to some extent the reality is these guys made basically the same amount of money for one year and are roughly the same length but one guy is thicker stronger and the other is quicker and more athletic and Green is 2 years younger and hasn't turned 26 yet. I think we know now why Green is currently on the roster and not Grant Williams.

[Q-is-here]

I know Lip and I definitely were interested in Grant Williams at least as a depth guy as a PF. It seemed like it may have made sense to acquire him in the deal instead of Josh Green. Tonight I was like hey what are his measurements anyways.

Grant Williams
6'5.75" in socks and 6'9.75" wingspan he was 240 lbs with 5% body fat at the combine.

Josh Green
6'4.5" in socks and 6'9.75" wingspan and was 214 lbs at the combine.

Of course then you look at athletic ability.

Williams had a what seems like a pretty good lane agility score for a PF at 10.83 but an underwhelming 26" standing vert and and 31.5" max vert. He did 20 reps of the bench press top of the class for people who participated.

Green had a 10.68 lane agility score and 30.5" standing very and 39.5" max vert. No bench press numbers it seems for this year.

So basically what separates these guys is an inch or so of length and a significant amount of girth for Williams and for Green better athletic ability.

Another consideration is Williams is 2 years older both guys were born in November.

So to some extent the reality is these guys made basically the same amount of money for one year and are roughly the same length but one guy is thicker stronger and the other is quicker and more athletic and Green is 2 years younger and hasn't turned 26 yet. I think we know now why Green is currently on the roster and not Grant Williams.

The weight is a big factor though which is why Williams is much better suited to play PF.

That being said, Josh Green is a classic 3&D, low-usage wing and like you said his age is aligned with our core. I still think he has a chance at starting at forward next to Jaden with Ayo subbing in for him relatively early.