Wolves Offseason Forward Options

[60WinTim]

I don’t know how I feel about this, but Kuminga to the Wolves for the vet minimum is becoming more plausible, and could happen in the next few days. Per Windy. (Speculative on his part)

[kekgeek]

I don’t know how I feel about this, but Kuminga to the Wolves for the vet minimum is becoming more plausible, and could happen in the next few days. Per Windy. (Speculative on his part)

He says the sign and trade is hard for the lakers because of the hawks. First of all, all sign and trades must be min 3 year contract so kuminga might not get the number he wants. And the hawks to sign and trade kuminga must trade another player to avoid the apron, from what windy is saying they really don’t want to do that.

[Phenom]

I don’t know how I feel about this, but Kuminga to the Wolves for the vet minimum is becoming more plausible, and could happen in the next few days. Per Windy. (Speculative on his part)

He says the sign and trade is hard for the lakers because of the hawks. First of all, all sign and trades must be min 3 year contract so kuminga might not get the number he wants. And the hawks to sign and trade kuminga must trade another player to avoid the apron, from what windy is saying they really don’t want to do that.

I'm guessing Kuminga would want a high number for a 3 year deal, although he could demand the 2nd and 3rd year be player options, and the Lakers give player options to everyone for some reason.

The Hawks side of it is more pressing and I have always felt they wouldn't be very eager to add more salary to cut without a nice pick payout.

It sounds like the Lakers have one tradeable first. Is that enough to get Atlanta to take on Vando and Knecht, only to have to cut them and eat their salary? Maybe but it seems like that would have come together by now.

It starting to feel like Kuminga could be coming to the Wolves.

[kekgeek]

I don’t know how I feel about this, but Kuminga to the Wolves for the vet minimum is becoming more plausible, and could happen in the next few days. Per Windy. (Speculative on his part)

He says the sign and trade is hard for the lakers because of the hawks. First of all, all sign and trades must be min 3 year contract so kuminga might not get the number he wants. And the hawks to sign and trade kuminga must trade another player to avoid the apron, from what windy is saying they really don’t want to do that.

I'm guessing Kuminga would want a high number for a 3 year deal, although he could demand the 2nd and 3rd year be player options, and the Lakers give player options to everyone for some reason.

The Hawks side of it is more pressing and I have always felt they wouldn't be very eager to add more salary to cut without a nice pick payout.

It sounds like the Lakers have one tradeable first. Is that enough to get Atlanta to take on Vando and Knecht, only to have to cut them and eat their salary? Maybe but it seems like that would have come together by now.

It starting to feel like Kuminga could be coming to the Wolves.

Sign and trades can’t have player options. They can be not fully guaranteed or have team options but no player options in sign and trades

[Phenom]

He says the sign and trade is hard for the lakers because of the hawks. First of all, all sign and trades must be min 3 year contract so kuminga might not get the number he wants. And the hawks to sign and trade kuminga must trade another player to avoid the apron, from what windy is saying they really don’t want to do that.

I'm guessing Kuminga would want a high number for a 3 year deal, although he could demand the 2nd and 3rd year be player options, and the Lakers give player options to everyone for some reason.

The Hawks side of it is more pressing and I have always felt they wouldn't be very eager to add more salary to cut without a nice pick payout.

It sounds like the Lakers have one tradeable first. Is that enough to get Atlanta to take on Vando and Knecht, only to have to cut them and eat their salary? Maybe but it seems like that would have come together by now.

It starting to feel like Kuminga could be coming to the Wolves.

Sign and trades can’t have player options. They can be not fully guaranteed or have team options but no player options in sign and trades

You are correct the first 3 years can't. The non guarantee can function the same way and even give him more money in the end, but again I dont think he wants to lock himself into a "low" number. A Wolves 1 year minimum will have more value to him to a certain 3 year number from LA. I'm curious what that number is.

[Monster]

I'm guessing Kuminga would want a high number for a 3 year deal, although he could demand the 2nd and 3rd year be player options, and the Lakers give player options to everyone for some reason.

The Hawks side of it is more pressing and I have always felt they wouldn't be very eager to add more salary to cut without a nice pick payout.

It sounds like the Lakers have one tradeable first. Is that enough to get Atlanta to take on Vando and Knecht, only to have to cut them and eat their salary? Maybe but it seems like that would have come together by now.

It starting to feel like Kuminga could be coming to the Wolves.

Sign and trades can’t have player options. They can be not fully guaranteed or have team options but no player options in sign and trades

You are correct the first 3 years can't. The non guarantee can function the same way and even give him more money in the end, but again I dont think he wants to lock himself into a "low" number. A Wolves 1 year minimum will have more value to him to a certain 3 year number from LA. I'm curious what that number is.

The thing is the Hawks have to be interested and so far apparently nothing has interested them. Why take on an overpaid player if you aren't getting something? They may as well sign Kuninga themselves for something over the vet min. Windhorst suggested Hardy as a sign and trade option that's not much more money than just taking a vet min and hope for the best. Plus again even at that salary does the Hawks want Hardy? Probably not.

I'm 100% I'm support of the Wolves trying to get Kuminga on the vet min it totally makes sense he is a talented player a few weeks away from turn 24 and has played plenty of NBA basketball. Maybe he is ready to break out in some way. Still I oddly feel pessimistic that it's going to work out. It may be worth noting that it seems he has mostly been considering teams that are projected to be good. Idk if there was any money available from teams that are less good but we have seen guys take the money over better opportunity on a winning team. He has also only played for winning teams.

Anyone want to take a stab at what his best case reasonable upside is?

[kekgeek]

Jon K reporting there is mutual interest in a K Love reunion.

[FNG]

Sign and trades can’t have player options. They can be not fully guaranteed or have team options but no player options in sign and trades

You are correct the first 3 years can't. The non guarantee can function the same way and even give him more money in the end, but again I dont think he wants to lock himself into a "low" number. A Wolves 1 year minimum will have more value to him to a certain 3 year number from LA. I'm curious what that number is.

The thing is the Hawks have to be interested and so far apparently nothing has interested them. Why take on an overpaid player if you aren't getting something? They may as well sign Kuninga themselves for something over the vet min. Windhorst suggested Hardy as a sign and trade option that's not much more money than just taking a vet min and hope for the best. Plus again even at that salary does the Hawks want Hardy? Probably not.

I'm 100% I'm support of the Wolves trying to get Kuminga on the vet min it totally makes sense he is a talented player a few weeks away from turn 24 and has played plenty of NBA basketball. Maybe he is ready to break out in some way. Still I oddly feel pessimistic that it's going to work out. It may be worth noting that it seems he has mostly been considering teams that are projected to be good. Idk if there was any money available from teams that are less good but we have seen guys take the money over better opportunity on a winning team. He has also only played for winning teams.

Anyone want to take a stab at what his best case reasonable upside is?

Nobody replied to your good question, monster, so I’ll take a shot. I’m more bullish on JK than most here, but I’d also venture I watched him more in March ànd April than most. This isnt upside, but what I want to get from him: 15/7 in 30 minutes with a 60 TS % plus buying into the defense Ant challenged him to play in his recruiting conversations (and yes, I realize there is some irony in that last part!)

I think most of us here like Jon Ks report there is mutual interest with Love…he’d be a nice addition.

[AussieWolf3]

Best case upside, and I suppose it's reasonable because they have similar profiles is Aaron Gordon.

That would be amazing obviously even if it would mean he would be guaranteed to be priced out of Minnesota.

Realistically?.... I can't think of a player comparison but really just accepting and embracing his role. Just be a high level role player Jon

*Edit: I thought of a player- Tobias Harris. If he have that level of impact that would really good

[Monster]

Best case upside, and I suppose it's reasonable because they have similar profiles is Aaron Gordon.

That would be amazing obviously even if it would mean he would be guaranteed to be priced out of Minnesota.

Realistically?.... I can't think of a player comparison but really just accepting and embracing his role. Just be a high level role player Jon

*Edit: I thought of a player- Tobias Harris. If he have that level of impact that would really good

The Aaron Gordon comp someone mentioned a few days ago from one of the videos they posted really intrigued me. I spent some times comparing their careers especially the first few years and also watched some highlights of Gordon when he was younger. They are similar but different but in general their strengths and weaknesses have plenty of parallels. The Gordon one was a comp that gave me a little more vision of what Kuminga COULD be if he rounds out into a good more consistent player. He has a ways to go because I think Gordon was a better defender early on but I think Kuminga has more offense than Gordon had at that point.

Tobias Harris is an interesting one too. He didn't become a good 3 point shooter till after he had been in the league for like 4 years.