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rapsuperstar31 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:35 am We went up 2-0 on Denver last year in Denver, and had their fans completely demoralized as we go up 26 a the half on a Mike steal and Ant dunk. Denver had a few more days to work on changes, but they made some massive adjustments changing how they defended Ant, running the offense through Gordon instead of Murray, and other things. Finch has less time to make adjustments but he does need to make adjustments. He mad a few adjustments on offense like posting up Ant a few times. But he needs to make adjustment on defense which is not something he likes to do. We need go shell, close the paint, double and blitz SGA and make OKC a three point shooting team. That is the exact opposite of how we like to play defense, but our way isn't going to work against OKC mid range game. It's up to Finch (and the players of course) if they want to make this a series. I would also play 9-10 guys, 8 guys worked fine against LA and GS. If we play 10 guys, we can play hard and more physical for longer periods of time as players get some rest. I'm not sure if we can play Donte again in this series, at least not in the 2nd half. His 3rd quarter minutes have killed us in the first two games.
I agree with your statements exactly on how we should defend them, was thinking that last night. You double SGA and make them shoot 3's, if they are wide open so be it. Don't even let SGA get going because no matter who guards him he still gets his, make the others beat you.
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Jalen Williams makes all NBA. Making him super max eligible. These new rules are going to break up the Thunder
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kekgeek wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 6:22 pm Jalen Williams makes all NBA. Making him super max eligible. These new rules are going to break up the Thunder
I think they've built their team with those possible increases in mind.

SGA, JDub and Chet are the only three they'll commit to. Everyone else can get rerouted for more players and picks.

Right now their worst contract is Ousmane Dieng at $5 mil. They're really responsible with it comes to their books.
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It's been frustrating watching our guys on offense constant at OKC's strengths on defense. Jason first talks about the defensive, but then touches on the offensive end with the same observation. We'll see if Finch is up to the task!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqPs-8wTxqw
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60WinTim wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:17 pm It's been frustrating watching our guys on offense constant at OKC's strengths on defense. Jason first talks about the defensive, but then touches on the offensive end with the same observation. We'll see if Finch is up to the task!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqPs-8wTxqw
THe problem is the same as last year. FInch loves Rudy, and will not take him out. I agree with a lot of what this guy says, but Finch just isn't good at making adjustments. I think anytime Dante or Naw are missing shots, we should be going to Clark (maybe Shannon). Same for Connelly when he isn't making shots. I have to believe that Clark will certainly get his fouls, but he can likely wear down SGA as well.
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Going back and looking at regular season games has us playing well by giving Clark, Shannon, Dilly and Garza significant minutes, while not even having Rudy and Julius available other than the first game which we lost due to getting runover in the third quarter. Sounds familiar!

This is why I am not a fan of Finch. He continues to try the same thing over and over. Definition of insanity.
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mjs34 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:49 pm
60WinTim wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:17 pm It's been frustrating watching our guys on offense constant at OKC's strengths on defense. Jason first talks about the defensive, but then touches on the offensive end with the same observation. We'll see if Finch is up to the task!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqPs-8wTxqw
THe problem is the same as last year. FInch loves Rudy, and will not take him out. I agree with a lot of what this guy says, but Finch just isn't good at making adjustments. I think anytime Dante or Naw are missing shots, we should be going to Clark (maybe Shannon). Same for Connelly when he isn't making shots. I have to believe that Clark will certainly get his fouls, but he can likely wear down SGA as well.
Take out Rudy, and put in who? Naz, who has been exploited on defense and can't hit a three, resulting in us getting terribly outscored against OkC when he is out there? Ju at center? Don't think so...not against 2 7-footers in a game where he is struggling at both ends. Garza or Edwards? Nope. Sure, Rudy is incredibly frustrating when he mishandles the ball or puts up a wild shot. But Finchy has him out there for 25-30 minutes because it's easy to see he is a far better option at center than anyone else on the roster. Just watch how many times his screening frees up Ant for an open look, or how OkC attacks the paint every time Finchy puts him on the bench. Jason is wrong here, and is expressing the rube take that Rudy is unplayable because he is so clumsy on offense. But he is totally ignoring the positive things that Rudy does, even when he is having a poor game for him, that make him by far our best option at center. Maybe Naz rediscovers his 3-pointer tonight and the Wolves don't lose ground when he is out there...if that happens, I'm on board with giving him his 25-30 minutes. But can we stipulate that he has been a disaster in the first two games?
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mjs34 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 11:01 pm Going back and looking at regular season games has us playing well by giving Clark, Shannon, Dilly and Garza significant minutes, while not even having Rudy and Julius available other than the first game which we lost due to getting runover in the third quarter. Sounds familiar!

This is why I am not a fan of Finch. He continues to try the same thing over and over. Definition of insanity.
It HAS worked though. Up to this point at least, you're the historically worst franchise in NBA history making the WCF twice in a row.

Was 1 game enough sample size to say we should try and switch it up, roll with more JC or TSJ, even Garza??? Not to me.

I do think now you see how the game goes in game 3 and have levers ready to pull like TSJ. You probably at this point need a spark and a dman near miracle to win 4 out of 5 and clinch the series.
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Wolvesfan21 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:28 am
mjs34 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 11:01 pm Going back and looking at regular season games has us playing well by giving Clark, Shannon, Dilly and Garza significant minutes, while not even having Rudy and Julius available other than the first game which we lost due to getting runover in the third quarter. Sounds familiar!

This is why I am not a fan of Finch. He continues to try the same thing over and over. Definition of insanity.
It HAS worked though. Up to this point at least, you're the historically worst franchise in NBA history making the WCF twice in a row.

Was 1 game enough sample size to say we should try and switch it up, roll with more JC or TSJ, even Garza??? Not to me.

I do think now you see how the game goes in game 3 and have levers ready to pull like TSJ. You probably at this point need a spark and a dman near miracle to win 4 out of 5 and clinch the series.
Exactly what I think, WF. What TC and Finchy have done turning this franchise around is extraordinary, and losing to a generationally talented elite team will not change my opinion…even if it’s a sweep or 5 gamer. We share our opinions here, and that’s fine. But I always get a kick out of guys who are so certain they know more than the coach…thinking you’re smarter than an NBA coach who has taken his team to the conference finals 2 years in a row is the real definition of insanity.
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FNG wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 10:24 am
Wolvesfan21 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 9:28 am
mjs34 wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 11:01 pm Going back and looking at regular season games has us playing well by giving Clark, Shannon, Dilly and Garza significant minutes, while not even having Rudy and Julius available other than the first game which we lost due to getting runover in the third quarter. Sounds familiar!

This is why I am not a fan of Finch. He continues to try the same thing over and over. Definition of insanity.
It HAS worked though. Up to this point at least, you're the historically worst franchise in NBA history making the WCF twice in a row.

Was 1 game enough sample size to say we should try and switch it up, roll with more JC or TSJ, even Garza??? Not to me.

I do think now you see how the game goes in game 3 and have levers ready to pull like TSJ. You probably at this point need a spark and a dman near miracle to win 4 out of 5 and clinch the series.
Exactly what I think, WF. What TC and Finchy have done turning this franchise around is extraordinary, and losing to a generationally talented elite team will not change my opinion…even if it’s a sweep or 5 gamer. We share our opinions here, and that’s fine. But I always get a kick out of guys who are so certain they know more than the coach…thinking you’re smarter than an NBA coach who has taken his team to the conference finals 2 years in a row is the real definition of insanity.
It's certainly possible the answer is keep playing our main 8 and make adjustment. We've already made a few adjustment on offense getting Ant some easier looks. While I certainly moan about Donte's -27 in 22 minutes last game, last year against Denver Gordon and Murray were -20 to -30 in the first two games against us and +20 to +30 in other games. Everyone was saying sweep after we destroyed Denver last year, and Denver used that as motivation, stop bringing the ball up with Murray and ran everything through Gordon and got back into the series. Whatever the adjustments that are needed, hopefully we make them. SGA scoring 35 shouldn't be a big deal if you contain everyone else.
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