Wolves Offseason Point Guard Options

[60WinTim]

I'm not feeling the "and" draft capital there.

I’m feeling it. Keep in mind the Celtics have the #27 pick in this year’s draft. So if it is simply Naz for White and #27, that make sense since the value of that pick isn’t great.

I like Derrick White a lot, but I think he’s a bit overrated. The Spurs shopped and traded him when he was in the core of his prime. That organization tends to do a superb job of valuing talent, especially if it’s their own. White has been terrific for Boston, but Jrue Holiday was the starting PG when the Celtics won the title a few years ago on a team that featured to stars in Tatum and Brown. Last season, White’s field goal percentage was under 40. That’s really bad. So yes, I still value him and would like to see him come here. But Naz Reid is 4 years younger than White and a career 37% 3-point shooter with unique ball-handling and mobility for a player his size.

I read it as Naz plus draft capital for White, not the other way around.

It might need to include Donte to make the salaries work, too.

[Lipoli390]

I'm not feeling the "and" draft capital there.

I’m feeling it. Keep in mind the Celtics have the #27 pick in this year’s draft. So if it is simply Naz for White and #27, that make sense since the value of that pick isn’t great.

I like Derrick White a lot, but I think he’s a bit overrated. The Spurs shopped and traded him when he was in the core of his prime. That organization tends to do a superb job of valuing talent, especially if it’s their own. White has been terrific for Boston, but Jrue Holiday was the starting PG when the Celtics won the title a few years ago on a team that featured to stars in Tatum and Brown. Last season, White’s field goal percentage was under 40. That’s really bad. So yes, I still value him and would like to see him come here. But Naz Reid is 4 years younger than White and a career 37% 3-point shooter with unique ball-handling and mobility for a player his size.

I read it as Naz plus draft capital for White, not the other way around.

Oops. I misread your post. I guess I’m not feeling draft capital either - at least not flowing out. I do think a fair deal would have #27 coming here with White. I’d prefer to pass on that deal though. I’d rather hand the staring PG reins to Ayo, use Randle to acquire a solid rotation player and sign Jeremy Sochan as a free agent. If we want to be bold, I’d trade Rudy to move up in the draft to grab Philon. That’s just the approach I’d take. There are other paths of course.

[Lipoli390]

I’m feeling it. Keep in mind the Celtics have the #27 pick in this year’s draft. So if it is simply Naz for White and #27, that make sense since the value of that pick isn’t great.

I like Derrick White a lot, but I think he’s a bit overrated. The Spurs shopped and traded him when he was in the core of his prime. That organization tends to do a superb job of valuing talent, especially if it’s their own. White has been terrific for Boston, but Jrue Holiday was the starting PG when the Celtics won the title a few years ago on a team that featured to stars in Tatum and Brown. Last season, White’s field goal percentage was under 40. That’s really bad. So yes, I still value him and would like to see him come here. But Naz Reid is 4 years younger than White and a career 37% 3-point shooter with unique ball-handling and mobility for a player his size.

I read it as Naz plus draft capital for White, not the other way around.

Oops. I misread your post. I guess I’m not feeling draft capital either - at least not flowing out. I do think a fair deal would have #27 coming here with White. I’d prefer to pass on that deal though. I’d rather hand the staring PG reins to Ayo, use Randle to acquire a solid rotation player and sign Jeremy Sochan as a free agent. If we want a solid low-turnover game-manager PG on a cheap contract, we could sign Tyus Jones as a FA. If we want to be bold, I’d trade Rudy to move up in the draft to grab Philon. That’s just the approach I’d take. There are other paths of course.

[Monster]

I’m feeling it. Keep in mind the Celtics have the #27 pick in this year’s draft. So if it is simply Naz for White and #27, that make sense since the value of that pick isn’t great.

I like Derrick White a lot, but I think he’s a bit overrated. The Spurs shopped and traded him when he was in the core of his prime. That organization tends to do a superb job of valuing talent, especially if it’s their own. White has been terrific for Boston, but Jrue Holiday was the starting PG when the Celtics won the title a few years ago on a team that featured to stars in Tatum and Brown. Last season, White’s field goal percentage was under 40. That’s really bad. So yes, I still value him and would like to see him come here. But Naz Reid is 4 years younger than White and a career 37% 3-point shooter with unique ball-handling and mobility for a player his size.

I read it as Naz plus draft capital for White, not the other way around.

Oops. I misread your post. I guess I’m not feeling draft capital either - at least not flowing out. I do think a fair deal would have #27 coming here with White. I’d prefer to pass on that deal though. I’d rather hand the staring PG reins to Ayo, use Randle to acquire a solid rotation player and sign Jeremy Sochan as a free agent. If we want to be bold, I’d trade Rudy to move up in the draft to grab Philon. That’s just the approach I’d take. There are other paths of course.

Lip is on the Jeremy Sochan bus!

[Q-is-here]

Q!!!! I just noticed you did not include Giddey in your list! But I guess there wasn't a lot of reason to think he was available. Being he has been tossed out there as a possible target, you should edit your first post to add Giddey's numbers.

Future mentioned him earlier on in this thread. After doing my due diligence, Giddey is #1 on my list of preferred ball handlers.

I'll add him, but don't know why Chicago would trade him. Isn't he part of the core that Chicago wants to build around after the mess of guards they transacted on at the deadline this past season?

Keep an eye on those Memphis guards!

[Lipoli390]

Q!!!! I just noticed you did not include Giddey in your list! But I guess there wasn't a lot of reason to think he was available. Being he has been tossed out there as a possible target, you should edit your first post to add Giddey's numbers.

Future mentioned him earlier on in this thread. After doing my due diligence, Giddey is #1 on my list of preferred ball handlers.

I'll add him, but don't know why Chicago would trade him. Isn't he part of the core that Chicago wants to build around after the mess of guards they transacted on at the deadline this past season?

Keep an eye on those Memphis guards!

Q - Which Memphis guard would be your top target for the Wolves? Maybe rank them in order with what you’d consider to be realistic trades to acquire each one. I like them all for different reasons but I don’t have a good sense of which would be best for us or what it would take to get them.

[Lipoli390]

I read it as Naz plus draft capital for White, not the other way around.

Oops. I misread your post. I guess I’m not feeling draft capital either - at least not flowing out. I do think a fair deal would have #27 coming here with White. I’d prefer to pass on that deal though. I’d rather hand the staring PG reins to Ayo, use Randle to acquire a solid rotation player and sign Jeremy Sochan as a free agent. If we want to be bold, I’d trade Rudy to move up in the draft to grab Philon. That’s just the approach I’d take. There are other paths of course.

Lip is on the Jeremy Sochan bus!

Yep. I’m all in on Sochan. Hop on with me or you’ll be left behind.

[Q-is-here]

Grouped by archetype and then from high to low in terms of contract value with annual salary starting next season:
(I excluded Doncic, SGA, Harper, Castle, Cunningham, and a few others that I think have zero chance of being traded or signed)

Lead Guards
Donovan Mitchell - $50.1M, $53.8M (Player Option)
De'Aaron Fox - $49.8M, $53.8M, $57.8M, $61.7M
Trae Young - UPDATE - Signed 4 year deal with Wizards - $49.5M, $51.9M, $54.4M, $56.9M
Ja Morant - $42.2M, $44.9M
Darius Garland - $42.2M, $44.9M
James Harden - $42.3M (Player Option)
LaMelo Ball - $40.7M, $43.5M, $46.4M
Kyrie Irving - $39.5M, $42.4M (Player Option)
DeJounte Murray - $32.8M, $30.8M (Player Option)
*NEW* Josh Giddey - $25M, $25M, $25M

Two-Way Starters
Jrue Holiday - $34.8M, $37.2M (Player Option)
Immanuel Quickley -$32.5, $32.5, $32.5
Derrick White - $30.4M, $32.5M, $34.9M (Player Option)
Jalen Suggs - $32.4M, $29.6M, $26.8M, $26.7M (Team Option)

Young Potential Risers That Could Be in First Two Categories Above
Scoot Henderson - $13.6M
Anthony Black - $10.1M
Ryan Rollins - $4M, $4M (Player Option)
Isaiah Collier - $2.7M, $5M

Shooter/Scorers
Jamal Murray - $50.1M, $53.8M, $57.5M
Malik Monk - $20.2M, $21.6M (Player Option)
Collin Sexton - Unrestricted Free Agent
Coby White - Unrestricted Free Agent
Ayo Dosunmu - Unrestricted Free Agent (Wolves have Bird Rights)
Ty Jerome - $9.2M, $9.7M (Player Option)
Payton Pritchard - $7.2M, $7.8M, $8.3M
Keyonte George - $4.3M, $6.5M
Cam Spencer - $2.5M, $2.4M, $2.6M, $2.8M (Team Option)
Bones Hyland - Unrestricted Free Agent

Vet Game Managers
Dennis Schroder - $14.8M, $15.5M
T.J. McConnell - $11M, $11.8M, $11.8M (Team Option)
Mike Conley - Unrestricted Free Agent
Tre Jones - $8M, $8M, $8M (Team Option)
Tyus Jones - Unrestricted Free Agent
Collin Gillespie - UPDATE - Re-signed with Phoenix - $10.7M, 11.6M, $12.4M, $13.3M

POA Defenders
Davion Mitchell - $12.4M
Jevon Carter - Unrestricted Free Agent
Kris Dunn - $5.7M
Marcus Smart - $5.2M (Player Option)
Jose Alvarado - $4.5M (Player Option)
Scotty Pippen, Jr. - $2.5M, $2.8M
Vince Williams, Jr. - $2.5M (Team Option)

[Monster]

Oops. I misread your post. I guess I’m not feeling draft capital either - at least not flowing out. I do think a fair deal would have #27 coming here with White. I’d prefer to pass on that deal though. I’d rather hand the staring PG reins to Ayo, use Randle to acquire a solid rotation player and sign Jeremy Sochan as a free agent. If we want to be bold, I’d trade Rudy to move up in the draft to grab Philon. That’s just the approach I’d take. There are other paths of course.

Lip is on the Jeremy Sochan bus!

Yep. I’m all in on Sochan. Hop on with me or you’ll be left behind.

I mentioned him in a post a while ago so I'm already on board! I'd guess he would be cheap he turned 23 last month and has already played quite a bit of basketball.

[Lipoli390]

Lip is on the Jeremy Sochan bus!

Yep. I’m all in on Sochan. Hop on with me or you’ll be left behind.

I mentioned him in a post a while ago so I'm already on board! I'd guess he would be cheap he turned 23 last month and has already played quite a bit of basketball.

Thanks for waiting and not leaving without me, Monster! . He’s an energy guy with untapped upside. Looks like he won’t cost much. Assuming we trade Randle and bump Naz up as our starting PF, we’ll want to add some depth to that position. Jeremy is a disruptive high-energy defender, which would be a nice complement to Naz’s offensive game.